Burger King's BRILLIANT New Ad Teaches Important Lesson

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  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I need to ask: Do you work in some capacity for telecom?
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    All goods and services.

    There is nothing preventing anybody from starting one. And if it got to that level competitors would come into the market.
     
  3. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    They survived in a world which was not yet online; the world has changed, and its access points.

    Clearly, you do get it. :)

    And it would be great to go back to the pre-"smartphone" days of actual communication, if only in the form of mono-syllables and eye rolls from teh teenagers. :)

    Indeed, internet access falls somewhere between very important and essential, but moving ever more towards essential every moment.

    :clapping:

    In sum, we're pretty much on the same page on this one. :)
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Monopolies

    Cannot

    Exist

    Without

    Government

    Regulation.

    Monopolies

    Require

    Regulations

    To

    Eliminate

    Competition.

    More regulations are not the solution to the problem caused by regulations.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope.
     
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  6. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish the left for one second would stop thinking about ways to get freebies and think about things.
     
  7. Antiduopolist

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    You're still not getting it.
     
  8. Antiduopolist

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    I appreciate your answering. :)
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Free things? :clap: :cheerleader: :clap:
     
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    I live in the boonies (by california standards) and I have choice.
     
  11. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or I am and you’re not. Seems to me that we’re arguing the same facts and coming to different conclusions. You want government to be in even more control of a system that it’s already controlling too much.

    And I don’t.
     
  12. US Conservative

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  13. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thats how statists do.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can’t wrap my head around how it could make any tidbit of sense to anyone that possesses an atom of it; the idea that the inability to control local government’s negative influence on a large corporation is resolved by granting a central government (that you have even less control over) more regulatory authority.
     
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    No, they are making a point that if other industries were doing the kinds of things that ISP's do without net neutrality, they would be called thieves.
     
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    Its a feelz based "belief" system. If you try to use logic you are going to be disappointed.

    Just remember that when they try to use logic against you-its not in their bag.
     
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    I'd like to see them make a vid showing the advertising we have to put up with online.... can't get your chips until you hear out at least 15 seconds of the jingle for nike shoes... then do a survey before you get the rest of your order.
     
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    Don't even get me started on smart phones.
     
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    yeah, except ISPs weren't doing those kinds of things before Obama's edict and they aren't doing those kinds things now.

    Net Neutrality is yet another big government solution looking for a problem. Net Neutrality is yet another commie scheme to wrap their invasive and controlling government tentacles around another segment of the economy. No thanks.
     
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    No momopoly

    Most areas have more than one internet provider
     
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    Yes, you can choose between hundreds of restaurants, but not hundreds of ISP's. The government has plenty of issues, but cable monopolies are not and have not been defeated by anyone and very few americans have "hundreds of choices" of ISP - so you defeat your own argument.

    Thank you for making it so easy.
     
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    Pffffffffffffffft.

    We are all governed by and subjugated to utterly bipartisan neoliberal economic policy, not any kind of “the laws of blah blah blah” nonsense. Once you bail out the Wall Street/donor/”job creator” class, twice, with socialism, in front of the entire world, the lie is exposed completely.


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    "Figure B provides more detail on the productivity-pay disparity from 1973 to 2011 by charting the accumulated growth since 1973 in productivity; real average hourly compensation; and real median hourly compensation of all workers, and of men and of women. As Figure B illustrates, productivity grew 80.4 percent from 1973 to 2011, enough to generate large advances in living standards and wages if productivity gains were broadly shared. But there were three important “wedges” between that growth and the experience of American workers.

    First, as shown in Figure B, average hourly compensation—which includes the pay of CEOs and day laborers alike—grew just 39.2 percent from 1973 to 2011, far lagging productivity growth. In short, workers, on average, have not seen their pay keep up with productivity. This partly reflects the first wedge: an overall shift in how much of the income in the economy is received in wages by workers and how much is received by owners of capital. The share going to workers decreased."

    The "laws of the marketplace" did that? Bullshyte.

    Privatized gains versus socialized losses for the Wall Street bankster class
    Internalized profit versus externalized risk and expense for the "job creator" class
    Socialism for the aristicracy versus laissez-faire capitalism for the masses
     
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    You're just skimming the surface of my argument, kid, and you didn't even defeat that.

    I agree that the problem you have is with a monopolized system. I disagree with your solution to that problem. In my view you're trying to solve a problem using the cause of the problem. It's the regulation of the system that creates the monopoly in the first place.

    The communications monopoly can not exist without government licenses that exclude competition. Monopolies can not exist without government regulations that make it difficult or impossible to compete. Your local government is what prevents there from being 100 choices just like there are 100 choices of restaurant. If BK was the only game in town because your town will only give zoning permits to BK, then BK would have the exact same power Comcast has in your town. The solution then would not be to further regulate BK. The solution would be to regulate your government into allowing more restaurant permits.
     

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