Why? You seem to have strong opinions about this, I only wanted to know more about why you think the entire scientific community could be lying.
You seem to be avoiding the topic when I ask you to provide the same level of evidence you require from the "evolutionists".
Or for that matter, any articles or papers to support his/her regious claims. So far, I see Prunepicker's belief in Christianity as based on the same things he/she criticizes us for doing with evolution.
Hold it right there. You are ignorantly assuming I don't comprehend this Theory. I comprehend the Theory of Evolution far better than anyone on this thread including yourself. It's my understanding due to research that I don't accept the Theory as a fact. Good grief. Is the rest of your post also out of ignorance? Let's see. So far I'm right. You obviously don't read what I've posted or you would know that I've screamed this from the mountain tops. For future reference please read before posting out of total ignorance. I'm very much aware of this. Once again you're speaking out of ignorance. I HAVE NEVER ASKED FOR PROOF! NOT ONE SINGLE TIME! More evidence that you don't read before posting. Correct. Your adherance to religion will not change. Of course you know that I've not once used or implied religion of any kind in this discussion. Oh wait! You don't read my posts. You only react out of ignorance. IF YOU AREN'T GOING TO READ MY POSTS THEN DON'T REPLY!
You and others have graciously provided the lack of evidence that supports my claim to not accept the theory as a fact. The overwhelming lack of evidence supports my claims. Most importantly, there is no evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. This is a quote from Darwin. Where is that evidence? Oh, that's right. There isn't any. Anywhere.
Whoa! I have. There is no evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. None. Please provide.
This is just you denying science again. All that stuff you typed above is ridiculous, given the rejection of science as a method of investigating how our universe works.
It's been provided MANY TIMES by me and by other posters. Again, the problem here isn't evidence, it's methodology. You don't accept science, and thus there is no agreed method of suggesting what evidence might even BE.
That is a fair point. And I've stated multiple times I can't provide you with that evidence. Where is your evidence to support your claims that the Bible is "absolutely 100% true?" I wonder why you, ChemEngineer, and Yguy never answer my questions. Though I think it may be because the beliefs all three of you hold, (with some level of variation between you) have as much proof going for them as the theory of evolution does. ChemEngineer and your belief in Christianity, and Yguy's belief in objective morality, aren't any different than belief in the theory of evolution.
On a "side note", I never understood the connection between evolution and an excuse for violating "human rights". Assuming the following are all proven true, I personally I couldn't care less about how much value human lives have, or if what I do is objectively wrong, or what my purpose is. My ideals come first. Anything else is a form of opposition. Even metaphysical truths. Also, even if humans are just animals, it doesn't inherently lead to anything bad. Of course it has the potential to, and obviously has in some cases. But that goes for any religion or ideology. I'm sure there are plenty of "evolutionists" who are against hurting animals. Especially those considered to be pets. If they can care about pets, livestock, and wild creatures, it isn't impossible for "evolutionists" to care about members of their own species. I also don't see humans as just another animal. The idea of believing in evolution to dehumanize others, thus creating an excuse to kill them always seemed silly. On the contrary, it tends to be the fact that they aren't just another animal, that makes certain types of people a problem for me. I wouldn't shoot a buck the same way I would a human. A buck doesn't have a negative disposition towards things I condone. Humans on the other hand are full of opinions. Only humans find something strange, disgusting, "retarded", or immoral.
How pitiful it must be to be in your shoes. You don't understand science and you believe whatever is told you. And most of all, you haven't provided any hard evidence of evolution. All you, and every evolutionists, have is extrapolation and nothing that honestly shows what you believe. You certainly do reject science. You're having to cover your bets with myths and wishful thinking certainly shows that to be true. If you could produce hard evidence, not extrapolation via speculation, you would. You can't. Sad but true.
Not true. All I've seen is extrapolation based on speculation. Just show me the evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. Stop denying science and put up or shut up.
In other words you can't provide any evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species. I understand. Heck, all you have is what you've been told to believe. It must be hard for you since I've shattered your belief in evolution and you're mad because you can't respond with science.
You really are hilarious. Until you progress toward knowing what science is, I don't believe you will be able to carry on a conversation about evolution.
Where is your evidence to support your claims that the Bible is "absolutely 100% true?" I wonder why you, ChemEngineer, and Yguy never answer my questions. Though I think it may bebecause the beliefs all three of you hold, (with some level of variation between you) have as much proof going for them as the theory of evolution does. ChemEngineer and your belief in Christianity, and Yguy's belief in objective morality, aren't any different than belief in the theory of evolution.
In other words you can't provide any science that supports your "opinions" about evolution; all you continue to do is troll the forum.
This is a typical reaction by someone who doesn't understand science or how to discuss it. You can't support your claims so you have to attack using childish banter. In other words you don't have any evidence to support a species gradually transitioning into another species, which any student of evolution knows is the basis of evolution. But you continue to believe something even though there is no evidence to support it. If anyone should give up trying to have an intelligent conversation about evolution it's me. Good grief. Despite your arguments, you can't bring anything to the table.
The inability of evolutionists to provide evidence of a species gradually transitioning into another species is quite supportive of my opinion. The need of evolutionists to have create what may have happened, due to the fact that they have no evidence, is also supportive of my opinion.
Where did I say that on this thread? You're obsessed with religion. You can't discuss this topic without your unreasonable obsession with religion.
I've posted multiple examples of evolution that included speciation. You need to earn a response by posting something worthy of discussion.
Here again, you simply to refuse to provide anything worthy of discussion. Claiming you disagree, but have zero beliefs, zero position, zero cites in support, zero anything .... ... that makes your posts to lacking in interest to warrant a response.
As I said, I tend to be obsessed with things that bother me. I'm not sure of everything you've said on this thread, but here are some posts of yours on this other thread: http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ism-is-abstract.425438/page-4#post-1065395435 My obsession is not all that unreasonable. If you believe what you've typed with such certainty, then you have your own theories. All I am asking for is the evidence that makes these theories you have any more valid than the theory of evolution.
What evidence are your beliefs based on? Has anyone tried to test what the Bible claims, or do you simply accept what you read?
