Arm the teachers...seriously?

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  1. Elcarsh

    Elcarsh Well-Known Member

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    Come on, you should know better G5000. You can't go around telling people to shut up unless they also denounce ever single person in the world who says something they disagree with.

    That **** don't fly!
     
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    Taking guns away from good citizens will not stop the crazies from killing people

    Find ou what it is about modern liberal culture that's driving kids nuts and ffix that
     
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    technically "assault rifle" is a made up term by the media.

    But the Girardoni rifle that Thomas Jefferson had fits the basic description. It was "semi auto", had a tubular magazine that held 20 rounds. and could shoot all 20 rounds faster then the typical musket could get its second shot off. The narrative that the founding fathers wrote the second amendment based on muskets and not "assault rifles" is factually inaccurate..
     
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  4. Elcarsh

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    No, it is actually a term made up by Hitler. It refers to the MP44, renamed to the StG44, which stands for "Sturmgewehr", literally meaning "Storm rifle"(referring to the verb rather than the noun) but more accurately translated as "Assault rifle".

    It is defined by the US army as "short, compact, selective-fire weapons that fire a cartridge intermediate in power between submachine gun and rifle cartridges".

    No, it does not fit the definition, as it literally had absolutely none of the characteristics of an assault rifle.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the Left accepts Nazi propaganda as fact even after it was created more than 60 years. If the definition is to be followed specifically then only "Selective Fire Weapons" should solely be considered "Assault Weapons". Therefore a semi-automatic firearm configured in the same style except for a selective fire switch cannot be considered an "Assault rifle/weapon".
     
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    The term "assault rifle" is a technical term referring to weapons that fire an intermediate power cartridge and have automatic fire capability. Such weapons are already highly-regulated. The term "assault weapon" was made-up by the Left and is defined entirely arbitrarily.

    Thomas Jefferson DID, in fact, have what today would be labeled as an "assault weapon," because it was a semiautomatic long gun. Such weapons were rare, but they were nonetheless in existence and so the technology was known of by the Founders.
     
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  7. kungfuliberal

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    Dude,"four or more" what? Again, YOUR personal idea of what is and isn't is irrelevant, as the list of weapons on the AWB of 1994 is quite clear. That being said, you could have all the weapons that weren't on that list...which is quite substantial.

    But all this is an aside, as the topic is about arming teachers in the classroom. I've addressed numerous "pro" responses...if you've got nothing new to add, then we're done.
     
  8. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    the ONE opinion peace does NOT speak for ALL Americans who deem themselves "liberal". Mind you, this issue has been publically discussed for some time in the print media. It's getting the spotlight now due to the fear reaction the GOP has to the "Never Again" movement, because they know all those kids will soon be of voting age. And while they are very earnest, socially alert and determined, not everyone is sold on the idea of lowering the voting age to 16. Case in point:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...wering-the-voting-age/?utm_term=.95ac33aa5193

    The NY Times has been running articles giving the pros & cons. And The Economist printed an article for such a move...and they are not "liberal" by any means
    https://www.economist.com/news/lead...ections-catch-them-early-and-teach-them-value

    So Battle3's blanket statement is not exactly 100% true. YOU would know this if you weren't so lazy enough not to look beyond your right wing myopia.

    Now, back to the OP....anything new to add?
     
  9. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    So you couldn't substantiate your previous claim with valid facts...and therefore just blow more smoke and attempt to move the goalpost. Yeah, you're done.
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...hers-seriously.526909/page-31#post-1068849069

    Your last paragraph is just more paranoid right wing gunner babbling.
     
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    Ah, the old 'accuse your opponents of everything you do' tactic.

    Good riddance.
     
  12. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Some AR15 models were banned. For your education:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-weapons-in-one-post/?utm_term=.52323f250140

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/3355/text
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    A fact, my friend...as the chronology of the posts shows. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
     
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    That was his job, genius!
     
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    Yes you've fully demonstrated your ability to be wrong and bullheadedly so. Marylnd shooting two students wounded shooter dead thanks to a security guard on campus who actually did his job.
     
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    Takes too long to deploy and have an effect. It might reduce his accuracy but not his ability to spray fire into a crowd.
     
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    Yes, "some." That didn't prevent plenty of others from being sold. In numerous states with their own state-level assault weapons bans, you can buy AR-15s that are "assault weapons ban-compliant" and those states have bans more rigorous than the federal ban. And all of the bans thus far just are grounded in the ergonomics of the weapons. So that there were fewer mass shootings during the period of the federal AWB means nothing in terms of the ban's effectiveness.
     
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    The NT Times is not liberal?

    Maybe to a far leftie it looks middle of the road but I’m not a far leftie
     
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    Obviously you don’t read it. They have many rightwing op ed reporters.
    What makes it liberal? They report stories that you don’t like? If their reporting wasn’t accurate it wouldn’t be one of the most respected newspspaer in the world! (Oh I know, the Pulitzer’s are part of a left wing conspiracy) I guess briebart is your idea of fine journalism
     
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    I am not going to even try talking you out of your tree

    To liberals the NYT is middle of the road and nothing will change their mind

    But its a leftwing birdcase liner for me
     
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    Wait, did you think I was leaving because you werent going to talk to me anymore?
     
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    The key your missing is the "select fire" of a real military weapon. And the lack of that in an AR15.
    The AR15 is a semi auto. 1 pull off the trigger = 1 bullet.. same as the Girardoni..

    The media claiming that a semi auto AR 15 is a military weapon or is a "Assualt weapon" is the made up liberal propaganda..
     
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    I get paid in June to address teachers who want to leave education. I try to motivate them to stay. That’s all I need now , is to explain to them that they have to carry guns also.
     
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    I don't care.

    You claimed that Thomas Jefferson had an assault rifle, you were wrong. You do not have sufficient knowledge on the topic.
     

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