German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer: 'Islam doesn't belong to Germany'

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  1. VotreAltesse

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    By the way I heard of the Sinai, the bombing of the sufis there, and the counter attack of Egyptian army, I didn't heard "maybe" as "potentially" as a relative function.

    Where de you get your statistics from ? 80 % of Al Jazeera viewer support ISIS.


    It's a massive phenomenon. The war with taliban in pakistan is massive. The black decade in Algeria caused 200 000 death, maybe 200 000 death aren't something massive enough for you. We can speak to of the war in Mali, 13 000 people have been killed by Boko Haram in Nigeria, the brutal rule of Shebab too. So you're probably considering 200 000 or 13 0000 people as "nothing", I don't.

    Yes, I don't care. Why ? Because american violence don't impact their life, and their homicide rate is their own problem. In the same time, members of my family could have been killed in a supermarket because they simply bought a baguette.
    Furthermore, it's not that, it's girls being insulted for not wearing hijab, are they insulted by american tourists ? It's not american tourists neither who attack people for a "bad stare".


    That played a role because the guys didn't had to learn the language but the real reason is a policy of mass migration. No mass migration policy, no mass migration.

    Pew research center says 8,6 %. Except if you call Pew research center a "fake news" provider.
     
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    The pendulum swings in other direction now.
     
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    Consider yourself lucky then. Let me give you one example of liberal madness which people in the UK have to put up with. At first is funnym but when you read through you realise that liberals actually use the power of state institutions to discipline or even fire people/teachers/lecturers who do not comply with their fascist political correctness.

    Cardiff Metropolitan University Bans All “Politically Incorrect” Words: Amusing List of Banned Words
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    Cardiff Metropolitan University is at the forefront of political correctness sensitivity. The University Bans Lecturers from Using any Sexist or Insensitive Words.

    by Mish

    The list of banned words is wider than you might think. Here are some examples: mankind, homosexual, housewife, manmade, and sportsmanship.

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    And please, try to avoid words like “mother” and “father” unless you can say “mother and father” together. Yes, the article states that.

    Gee, is there an order for this? Yes, there is. It better be random. Always saying mother first could get you in trouble. The article did not say but the phrase “ladies and gentlemen” clearly has to go


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    According to the guide, Mrs. and Miss are considered offensive. Clearly, it’s best to avoid gender-identifying terms altogether.

    What happens When these culturally-trained “snowflakes” hit the real world outside of their safe-space university?

    Hmm. Am I allowed to use the word “snowflake” like that? Apologies offered for my unsportspersonslike conduct.

    Mike “Mish” Shedlock
     
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    If they were running away, you wouldn't have a problem.

    Get them a good education and the Imaginary Friend stuff will go away.
     
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    Women aren't all that interested in male pigs. Muslim noncitizens need need to behave--or hit the road.
     
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    As if things were so simple. Zakir Naik, the chief of Taliban, ISIS, Al Qawadari, they have all a good education.
     
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    No. They must Go. This is not their country
     
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    You're bound to fail if you try to get rid of them, but I think you can win with my approach.
     
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    Let us us first try our approach then.
     
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    Northern European roundhead culture, from Scandinavia to New England, was simultaneously highly educated and highly religious, and I would argue still is, if no longer particularly Christian. Don't expect education to rid the world of religion anytime soon.
     
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    Wrong! You make a comparison with the Nazis which lacks every reality ... if you had chosen the socialism it would be better.

    As so often told, the IS ins missinterpreting the Koran and faking it how they want ... and the silly Thing is, that the Islam-Haters here follow their bad Version too to back their hate on Islam ... as both are like allies! Lol...

    Socialism is in it's core and theory not bad ... even for many US People is socialism like devils bible. But as soon as socialism changes too communism, it becomes worse!
     
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    But to deliver the "Tools" to do so / having the power to do it, they are responsible, eh?
     
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    Only if Muslims follow the Koran. Many of them do not. like I said.
     
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    Christians and Jews aren't Idolaters.
     
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    More for what is contained in the written doctrine that they all claim is the word of god.
     
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    Unfortunately, what you refer to as misinterpreting and faking the Koran is actually following a literal interpretation of the Koran. The Islamic Caliphate applying Islamic doctrine as law, as it existed from 632 until the 1920s, wasn't due to a misinterpretation of the Koran and was instead due to a literal interpretation of the Koran. The likes of ISIS are merely returning to the interpretation followed for over 1000 years.
     
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    "protection till he hears the word of Allah" and then its back to "slay the idolaters wherever you find them". Even ISIS has given unbelievers an opportunity to convert to Islam before being killed if they refused. AND YOU think they should win points for being nice and giving them a chance to convert before being slayed.
     
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    So you confirm that Islam was / is on track to reform and modernize since 1920 and some extremists and their followers - who are a clear minority inside all Muslims - want to drive the wheel back now?
    So what ...? There are also extremists in Christian religion who want to have Bible as law - Old and New Testament! Of course no real Chance for them to do - what pleased me as Atheist - and mostly lesser violent asl Islamist, but you accuse the complete Religion because the Sharia is part of their law?

    Hell, one and for all times now!
    Do I like the Koran and Sharia law?`No, as I don't like any Religion, but I respect others Religion!
    And if in this or that Country the Sharia is the common law, then it is and what gives us the right to be upset about? Nothing! It is their culture and their Religion and so their issue - Point!

    But when scum like IS wants to bring Terror in Name of their Religion to others, then they are of course and wothout any question an enemy of us and all who protect and Support them, need to be fought too!

    But we smart Westerners and Islam knowers are so impudent to have our Hands arm deep in the issues of others in the Region and not only that we Support right these local dictators like in Saudi Arabia for example ... we help these dictators to surpress any trial of changes and protest from the local Population if they want changes and follow the BS blabber of the reasons to back the dictators further. And even if these reasons are discovered as what they are at least - BS - then come from not only few her ein the Forum the next BS of that no Country there is able for Democracy and so a dictator is necessary and necessary to back!

    Hallelujah ... and then Islam is evil and the reason for everything, because such idiots speak their minds and views fit nicely instead of facing reality!
     
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    No, the words of the Koran remain the same.

    Christians who follow a literal interpretation of the entire bible would also follow these parts.

    Ephesians 2
    15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

    Hebrews 8
    13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

    Romans 10
    4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

    Romans 7
    6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

    2 Corinthians 3
    13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

    Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

    23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law(*)

    "For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ...Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way."

    According to Christianity
    36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
    37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

    According to Islam
    Volume 1, Book 2, Number 26: Narrated Abu Huraira*)
    Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."

    Virtually polar opposites of each other, Jesus was a preacher, Muhammad was a warrior. That's why with Christianity you get this worldwide campaign of missionaries feeding the poor and caring for the sick, spreading the words of Jesus. While with Islam we get this worldwide campaign of Islamic terrorism.
     
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    Now they are at war with them. When the people of Egypt were given the right to elect their own government, they elected the Muslim Brotherhood with the platform

    'Allah is our objective; the Prophet is our leader; the Quran is our law; Jihad is our way; dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope."
     
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    No, because depending which Version ... in Terms of which Translation and Interpretation and this is the Basic Problem of the Koran!



    Nice ... and what is about the Old Testament? Please don't come with the nonsense that not valid due to New Testament which has replaced Old Testament, because then I get a laugh and you have to teach 2/3 of Christians this issue, starting with the Pope in Rome!
     
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