German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer: 'Islam doesn't belong to Germany'

Many muslims and most of the most strident followers read Arabic. No translation issues at all.

Those were quotes from the bible, not my views

 

Sure ... and all are Arabic too, eh?

Let me think a Moment about able to read a foreign language ... let me say me as German to read English text as example wbout difficulties to understand:

"Kevin runs from the school directly to his parents home."

Problem is the verb "running" now, because there are directly 3 different German meanings existing!

#1: Run means "laufen" ... what is most common for a translation
#2: Run means also "rennen" what is "fast running" at least
#3: In the context of the sentence, "run" can simply mean that Kevin goes straight home from school without a stop ... even though "going" or "walking" should be taken as verb ... and where "walking" and "going" have at least only 1 word in German - "gehen"... and the mess is perfect!

Old or New Testament, eh? [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

The bible also says that Christians are supposed to love their enemies and turn to him the other cheek when stricken. The fact that many Christians do not, doesn't negate the fact that this is what the bible commands.

 

Unfortunately there is no confusion as to the meaning of "fight", "kill", "slay' and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers

 

Maybe it is ... but the BS starts with the issue who are unbelievers and idolators and how to handle them by Koran.
And fortunately the bible is full of These things too in Old Testament which is always liked to back any violance with gods word by Christians ...

 

I am a German myself so I may comment on this topic. I must say that I see Muslims in Germany relaxed. The majority of Muslims living in Germany are Turkish and we had never serious problems with them. Now we have taken refugees some years ago and we obviously have more problems with them. On the other hand: You shouldn't exaggerate things. It's a fact that you have certain idiots under the Muslims, that's true. But this doesn't change my life.

The point is: Terror organisations like for example the IS are in an obvious fight first with the Islam, second the Islamic tradition, and third with reality. But they are not "the" Muslims, they are only a certain group of Muslims.

And to judge Islam fairly you must say that the Christians at that time of beginning medieval times act the same way. Take pope Gregor. Under pope Gregor heathens who don't want to be Christians were tortured until they confessed Christianity. And pope Gregor was 30 years older than Muhammad. On the other hand you must say, Christians were never seen as heathens from the Muslims, and Muslims were never seen as heathens by the Christians. Islamic terror organisations stand therefore for an Islam which is completely against any Islamic tradition.

And whether Islam is part of Germany or not I don't care. The German interior minister said by the way "Islam is not part of Germany, the Muslims are." This isn't by the way new, we have this discussion for years. Angela Merkel's point of view is: "The Muslims are part of Germany, so Islam is part of Germany." and I agree with her view, for to see it otherwise is nit-picking

 

The more tolerant, peaceful verses of the new testament abrogate the more violent, intolerant verses of the old testament. With Islam it is the more violent and intolerant Medinan verses that abrogate the more peaceful and tolerant Maccan verses.

 

I already showed with verses from the Koran that your theory that Christians and Jews aren't "unbelievers" is BS.

 

Bad apology and pass the reality!

In Islam, the violence is in the Qur'an ... in the case of Christians, one shows hypoctically the peaceful New Testament and says "see how peaceful we are", but if you need violence you take the Old Testament as a basis and you find just as much violence in God's Word!

 

And OI already explained you that your quoted Koran Areas are irrelevant and also wrong translated, as well done after the Christians started the Crusades to free Jerusalem!

 

HA HA HA HA! maybe not quite yet, but it's comin as long as Andrea Merkel is running the show over there in Germanistan. Your country has become infected and there's no fixin it, just like Sweden and France, so you better start learning the Koran and kneel to Allah or the Muslims will be choppin of yer Head

 

Personnaly, I prefer my head to be chopped.

 

Tell me, why have americans stopped to follow media after 2015? Merkel closed borders in 2016. Migration went down by 96%.

On a sidenote we have less muslims than you have. My state for example has not a single mosque. Meanwhile you have almost 50% non whites...

 

Claiming muslims mix all kinds of stuff up to end up with some kind of extremist way,... is something you're not proving at the moment. So I call fake. But it does seem a bunch of nazi's do this... they cherry pick whatever that supports their hate agenda.

 

Primarily violence by God. As an atheist Im not concerned. And I don't blame Christianity when Christians act in contradiction of their doctrine. I do blame Islam when Muslims act in accordance with their doctrine believing they must "Fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until.... religion should only be for Allah" because that's what the Koran says.

 

fake news. It's a sad sad day that translations made on youtube are considered to be a valid source. lol

I wrote... the amount of Muslim taking part in terrorism... =/= amount of people killed.
You failed to quantify the problem.

The percentage of Muslims taking part in terrorism is a far and FAR smaller % of their population compared to Americans who made a felony crime.

American violence impacts their own lives and the lives of people world wide... of which, mostly Muslims.

Negative. The real reason is that France used to be a bigger Muslim nation than a Christian nation back in the 1950's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Sweden

They got it wrong. My source says:
As of the year 2000, an estimated 300,000 to 350,000 people of Muslim background lived in Sweden, or 3.5% of total population;[10] thereby included is anyone who fits the broad definition of someone who "belongs to a Muslim people by birth, has Muslim origin, has a name that belongs in the Muslim tradition, etc." regardless of personal religious convictions.

And here we are claiming they are muslim, while Sweden doesn't keep track who believes in what religion.
My source claims about 1/3 of that is actually a Muslim.

 

You realize that the year 2000 was 18 years ago ? Mass migration and higher birth rate can change things quickly.

 

Many? The amount of people who follow ISIS/Boko Haram etc is minutely small.

 

ISIS/Boko haram are just the emerged part of the iceberg, they're the most violent of already violent people. Furthermore, there is many people who support ISIS without joining them.

 

[5:58] O ye who believe! take not those for friends who make a jest and sport of your religion from among those who were given the Book before you, and the disbelievers. And fear Allah if you are believers;

[5:59] And who, when you call people to Prayer, take it as jest and sport. That is because they are a people who do not understand.

[60:8] It may be that Allah will bring about love between you and those of them with whom you are now at enmity; and Allah is All-Powerful; and Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.

[60:9] Allah forbids you not, respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes, that you be kind to them and act equitably towards them; surely Allah loves those who are equitable.

[60:10] Allah only forbids you, respecting those who have fought against you on account of your religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and have helped others in driving you out, that you make friends of them, and whosoever makes friends of them — it is these that are the transgressors.

 

They do. But 99,999% says the other ones, being the terrorists, got it totally wrong.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sword_Verse

 

So what. The Egyptian military got rid of that elected government with the equipment and funds of the US. The US still funds them with over a billion a year. Land of the free, spreading democracy... american "values" are fake news.

 

Not true. There is no country among the Muslims who is not attacking this, with zero objects from it's own population.

 

Did you ignore all the rest thats mentioned?