Why do you believe in God ?

Your " non barbaric society" has war. That kills innocent lives of all ages.

 

Wars are the unavoidable consequence of nations clashing against each other. That too is barbaric but a country can not simply opt out of wars because to do so is to give in to even greater evils.
You don't know any of this?

 

Excuses do NOT refute one word of my post :

Your " non barbaric society" has war. That kills innocent lives of all ages.

...an "non barbaric societies" do not have slaves.....which is what women become when you take away their right to their own bodies.

 

No. What self refutes your own posts are ridiculous comments like calling an eternal reality of mankind (war) an "excuse". That's pathetically lame.

We don't engage in war arbitrarily and
in the end far more lives are spared than wasted.

That's hyperbolic crap.

 

Yes, YOU couldn't refute my post.

So YOU decide whose life is valuable and whose isn't....why you?

So you believe it's OK to kill others if you feel like your life is more important?

No, it isn't....if you take away a person's right to their own body they become a slave....


What do you call people who have no right to their own body?



Back ON topic, why do you believe in god?

 

What gave you the idea that I ever stated that Biden was "pro life" ? You must have misunderstood something.

Rights ends where the nose of another person begins. Clearly you are assuming that a zygote (single cell at conception) is a person.

The problem with this "assumption" is that there is no consensus among experts that this claim is true. (quite the contrary in fact).

So the best place "pro life" can get to is "experts disagree" = "we do not know/we do not know otherwise"

It is one thing to believe in the catholic concept of ensoulment (the soul exists at conception) quite another to be able to prove this claim true.

So while having this religious belief is one thing ... making a law on the basis of this belief is quite another. There is a difference between 1) having a belief and 2) forcing that belief on others though physical violence (Law).

Since you can not prove (or come up with valid justification) showing that the zygote is a living human .... you have no business making a law on the assumption that the claim (zygote is a human) is true.

What we have is conflicting rights... rights of woman vs zygote. The rights of the woman weigh heavy on one side of the scales of justice.

What value do we assign the zygote ... how do we value " we don't know/we don't know otherwise"

Obviously it is no contest - the rights of the woman win out.

 

You're being to hard on christians.
The only evil part is the right wing. Some just happen to be christians, but most all right wing is evil.

 

And to die for those same people while murdering innocent people and claim to be righteous for it.

 

How do you promote abortion?

 

You probably should not forget.
Doncha know if you happen to be in the same room as a gay, you will likely become gay yourself? It's well known by RWers.

 

Yep, and it's no different than the real campaign, by some in this very thread even, to take the worst of Islam and apply it to smear the entire religion.
Some are soooo gullible, they believe Rush when he says most muslim countries don't let women drive. Imagine how crazy those people must be.

Maybe those who think those things really hate women and are internalizing their own guilt.

 

Sorry. I guess I misunderstood it when you said Biden's religious views made him anti abortion.

"Biden was asked about abortion. He responded "I am a Catholic and as such do not agree with abortion"
I mean, that is from your post...right? And Biden is saying his Catholicism does not agree with abortion...right?
So where did I get the idea you ever stated Biden was pro life? I guess I got it from you.

I am not an absolutist on the matter. Clearly you are assuming things about my position.

That "thing" in the womb with a fully developed central nervous system, brain and organs is every bit the human that you and I are. The pro choice crowd does not like ultra sound pictures because it conveys to a wavering mother just what she contemplates
doing...snuffing out an innocent life.

You've constructed an elaborate straw man with the zygote argument.
I hope it was worth it.

 

By voting the way NARAL wants you to vote.

 

I have already provided proof. It was tied to their tail

 

I thought the REAL reason for my homophobia was a secret attraction to same sex? Did the narrative change? Was that one offensive?

 

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I clearly self identified as an evil right wing, homophobic, science denying, theocracy loving, women hating, uneducated, bible thumping, self righteous, fundamentalist. Who said anything about other Christians?

And of course, if the narrative is to be consistent, it should obviously have me condemning all others who do not believe as i do. ..which of course, i do, to submit to the narrative. Are not all who disagree with me bound for hell, anyway?

 

NARAL does not "promote" abortion.....it defends rights, those things you don't want women to have...

 

Then you are in the 49% of RW. I assumed you'd be in the 51%.
So yes, it is your formerly secret attraction. Since you now admit it and told everyone about it.

 

I did say some happen to be christians. Again, you are the minority RW evil person and Christian.
Many RWers are leaving religions.

 

I would imagine NARAL want you to vote for pro-choice people ,is there something wrong with that?

 

Thee "pro life" movement wants laws banning abortion in from conception on. Legislation has been introduced claiming the zygote is a baby/living human/Homo sapiens.

You said you were "pro life" if you do not agree with the above .. then what is your position.

The fact that you cannot understand the difference between having a believe .. and forcing that belief on others .. is not my fault.

 

True and there is a real campaign to take the worst of Islam and smear an entire religion with it and ironically, these are many of the same people that scream the loudest when they sense Christianity is getting the same treatment.

Maybe they are internalizing their own guilt.

Works both ways, doesn't it?

 

What "greater evils" has Switzerland "given in to"?

 

The illegal invasion of Iraq proves that statement to be wrong.

 

A pro life position covers a whole range of stances from the most severe, what you have claimed, to less restrictive views, such as mine.
The common denominator is respect for human life and a wish to see abortions become more and more rare.

You might as well claim an anti immigration view only means rounding up every single illegal in the nations (tens of millions)
and dumping them back over the border. In the real world there are many differences over what should be done.a so

I have to smile at the unintended irony and a shocking lack of self awareness in your comment.