Pensioner, 78, arrested for murder after 'stabbing burglar to death in his home'

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah this thread was just for some to get off on themselves. We now know because of information Durandal gave that the police say this was just a formality and they will be very surprised if the old man is charged with anything bringing up what I said before that in the UK you have the right to use necessary force to protect yourself even if the necessary force needed results in the death of the criminal. What you are not allowed to do is just cold blooded murder of them.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are more likely to get cut up into little pieces in the UK than to be killed here...

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/201...ke-new-york-first-time-since-1800-sadiq-khan/
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Pink!" Good God...Buy her a real weapon...

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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no...you have to have a reasonable fear for yourself or others...and you must stop your defense when the thug flees or is down.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Over the years, I have come to understand a critical difference between the world of fear and the world of freedom. In the former, the primary challenge is finding the inner strength to confront evil. In the latter, the primary challenge is finding the moral clarity to see evil" – Natan Sharansky.

    The UK has lost the ability to confront evil, much less see it
     
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    Well when two guys kick in your front door and stick a blade in your face, don't forget to take notes on each step so we can have the details on how to do it without going overboard.

    Actually the UK has more violent crime. The total violent crime numbers in your country exceeds ours, and you have 1/5 the population.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    based on the report you can tell the assailants were probably muslims, and thats why he was charged with murder.
     
  8. Collateral Damage

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    Do you keep a first aid kit in your home? A spare tyre in your vehicle? A fire extinguisher in your home? I do.

    It's called being prepared. A bit cliché, but better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it. I live out in the country, the nearest neighbor is a quarter mile away. The police are miles away. I have not needed it, but I am prepared if I do. I enjoy my life, don't live in constant fear as you portray it, because I know I have a way to defend me and mine if I needed to.

    A wee bit hyperbole on the living in fear thing, but if it makes you feel better about not being able to defend yourself and trusting that someone else will do it for you, that's your choice.
     
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    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, the world was working so hard establishing medical systems, transportation, and stopping slavery all by themselves until those evil empire builders showed up.
     
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    Were any Pugs seen fleeing the scene?
     
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    Britain has not been great since 1066. When one needs to add "great" it normally means that aren't but are wishful. Sort of like the new thing, "United Kingdom", 1) not united at all, just look at Ireland and Scotland, too bad about Scotland. 2) The king has been fired and the Queen is a leftover the slaves can't seem to get over. And by the way, the House of Windsor, like the House of Rothschild, are German.


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  12. alexa

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    This lie has been shown. The police say the arrest is just procedure and they will be surprised if he is arrested for anything so everyone getting a hard on because they have guns and imagining that Brits need to say where would you like me to sit so that you can kill me, has been shown that these ideas belong only to your chauvinistic imaginations....and take a look at your post I was replying to. You clearly have someone coming to kill you on your mind every day. You even speak of warning people before you shoot. Like I said just chauvinism.

    Here is the bit I am talking about

    Never mind your police quietly telling you just to kill them rather than leave them wounded when they could sue you.
     
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    Why is it procedure to arrest the victim of a home invasion by two armed thugs?
     
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    Yes, I live in a rural area and the police will always arrive after the crime, if I am around to see them. So I do not live in fear, hanging onto my 1911 Colt 45. In fact, owning that gun and being a good marksman, and not coming apart under fire, as I proved to myself long ago in SE Asia keeps me with a great feeling of security here in the sticks. I am old, and cannot fight younger intruders, but Colt made me an equalizer. I love him for that. And it is the real american way.
     
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    If you want to know do a search to find out.
     
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    Actually, those stats are fake. And I don't live in the UK.
     
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    In the U.S. making an arrest is not a mere technicality. If the police don’t think the old fellow did anything illegal, why arrest him? In the U.S. he wouldn’t have been arrested at all.
     
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    Are you based in reality? Stalin has been dead since 1953, all is known. As to the rest of what you have stated, it seems to follow along with lack of facts.

    So let's get factual, here are the statistics for 2018 Whole Article:

    Mass Shootings: 58
    Officer involved incident, officer injured or killed: 71
    Officer involved incident, subject-suspect injured or killed: 616

    Well it seems you are more than 10 times more likely to be in danger from police than mass-shooters. Along the lines of this thread (incidents):

    Home invasion: 543 (still less than police)
    Defensive use: 429

    Now as to your other uninformed claim:


    Whole Article
     
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    We know who was in the wrong house. People that don't want to get shot shouldn't do that.
     
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    Ahhhhhhhh, did they rain on your parade? And here you had already hung the victim and made it all nice for the scum.
     
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    Actually that would depend where you live. If you live in a nanny area you can do nothing without permission. If you live in a free state then your life is forfeit.
     
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    The man that lives in fear deserves death if nothing more than to relieve his tortured soul. The man that lives in freedom accepts death and lives life to the fullest.

    Evil is that which is not addressed. When evil is addressed, then truth can reign.
     
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    I know, I know!!! Because it is a nanny state and you can't do anything until nanny says so.
     
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    Translation, no clue.
     
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    I think you do not understand the point. "In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated." Now tell me, how much would be dead if there was no gun control in Soviet Union? I guess - much more as there would be very likely a civil war. So this argument of youres does not work. One needs a reference to compare with and here is none. Same staff with Turks.
     

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