Pensioner, 78, arrested for murder after 'stabbing burglar to death in his home'

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  1. vman12

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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I already know why.

    It's because self defense is not allowed in the UK.
     
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    First, I stand under no one. Second, you seem to have no point. Third, I don't believe you comprehend the matter at hand.

    Fact 1, Stalin seized the guns.

    Fact 2, Stalin then proceeded to slaughter somewhere up to 20 million people that were opposed to him and another 20 million or so with WWII.

    Fact 3, Turkey seized the guns.

    Fact 4, Turkey then proceeded on a path to mass genocide of the Armenians.

    Throughout history, dictators have seized the guns and then proceeded to eliminate all opposition.

    Lastly, you are attempting to make a claim that is unfounded, illogical and incorrect. History is history, it can't be changed.
     
  4. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Meanwhile you are no longer going to be the majority with all it's privileges :roflol:
    Neh neh neh neh neh!:roflol:
     
  5. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    Actually, that bit about me worrying someone is coming to kill me every day is false. I don't worry about it, just like I don't worry about getting a flat tire, or a house fire, because I have the equipment to address it.

    I don't have a problem with Europeans being unarmed, that is a choice 'you' make when you live there, but considering this is a predominately American forum, you will get the predominant American response. There were reasons why the founding fathers made sure citizens could protect themselves, but apparently you don't agree with it. If you are fine with having to depend on someone else to defend you, then you are in the right place.

    Yes, society in general is extremely litigious these days, so preventing an unjustified lawsuit, if necessary, seems like common sense to me.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK well having your views is one thing but if they are based on ignorance and even when you are informed several times that what you said is totally untrue then you should start worrying about what you think and how you act because even when the truth is right in front of your eyes you are unable to see it. I'd be very concerned if I was you but if I was someone who wanted to brainwash someone I'd pick you quick. Someone who ignores the truth in favour of their emotions would be my prime target.
     
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    Privileges, well that shows you again have no clue. I'm never a majority, that is an axiom for the low IQ masses. I'm never the minority, that is an axiom for the low IQ masses. I am singular and capable of self determination.

    And while what you say may be your destiny, here that is not going to happen. You have no clue on the mass depopulation that is about to occur, but not to worry, Britain will more than likely be at the forefront of this event. Your privileges are about to be revoked including your right to life, but then not all is bad.
     
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    Wow, you seem to have described your rhetoric pretty well. Oh, by the way, would you actually recognize truth if it smacked you up side the head? I know you do emotions very well so I don't need to ask that.
     
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    Why the hell do you compare WW2 with the peaceful times?
    So Stalin slaughttered 20 millions Russians during WW2? Unbeleivable how I was so ignorant! I thought it was Hitler. Looks like there is a special view on history that is taught at US schools. 20 millions dissidents.... another rediculous number. This is a population of 4 big cities at that time, more than population of Moscow. In 1913 the population of Russian Empire was about 160 millions, at 1959- about 200 millions (and this is taking into account deaths in WW1 and WW2). The population grouth rate was more, than in Europe. Could that be possible if Stalin killed so many people? No.
     
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    Ooo. Sounds scary.

    Let's see how good you are with brainwashing.

    Fact: he was arrested as a victim of a home invasion
    Fact: you can't buy a weapon for the purpose of self defense, even in the home
    Fact: the only items you can carry in the UK is a rape whistle and a bottle of dye (used to ID your killer, I guess)

    Go ahead and tell me what that "truth" is. You've alluded to it. Spell it out for me.

    You don't have to be concerned for me, I'm more than capable of taking care of myself.
     
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    No, he was arrested on suspicion of murder as a part of standard procedure, because he is suspected of having killed someone. That he was the victim of a home invasion is what will likely ensure that he is not charged with a crime.

    I would not be at all surprised if victims of home invasions in the US who kill an intruder are also taken into custody as a matter of procedure.
     
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    As bad as it is here in the US, it's worse in England.
     
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    Why are you suspected of murder when two people kick in your front door?

    Maybe in California. Not anywhere else.

    They might come back and arrest you later if they find out you were involved in the home invasion as someone living there, but no, they don't arrest you for defending yourself in your own ****ing home.

    If you shoot a Brownie that walks into your open front door at 1 PM, then yeah, you'll get arrested. Otherwise, no, in the US it's not standard procedure to punish a victim like it is in the UK.
     
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    Being arrested is not being "punished." It's following procedure.
     
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    The state can, citizens not
     
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    Arresting a guy that just had his door kicked in, his life threatened, and a defenseless wife at home under police "protection" is absolutely punishing them.

    Maybe after you get mugged you'd like the police to punch you in the face too?

    Let's start arresting people that get raped just in case they were in on it.

    Gassing Jews was just "procedure" too.
     
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    From your source:
    Violent crime covers a wide range of offences including minor assaults (such as pushing and shoving), harassment and psychological abuse (that result in no physical harm), through to wounding and death

    And it's not my government. I am an American, though have been to the UK many times. It's a safe place. For the most part, serious crime happens in bad neighborhoods in big cities, mostly London. Inner city crime. Gang problems,etc. When one visits London & other big cities, one doesn't go to those neighborhoods, and the rest of the country is safe and quite beautiful.
     
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    Putting your hands on someone is a violent crime.

    It's not my fault that the UK has a rate five times higher.
     
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    Cretens expect other countries to do things like they are done in their own country.
     
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    Yes, like arresting victims and being defenseless in the face of violence.

    It makes me wonder why you do it.
     
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    Okay. Keep your gun handy: someone may 'push and shove' you, 'harrass' you or be verbally or 'psychologically' abusive. LOL
     
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    How many times do I have to say I'm not British? Are you self medicating?

    Seriously, do I look British?
     
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    Are you sure?

    Are you from one of those other European countries where you're expected to stiffen the 'ole lip while you're beaten to death?
     
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    Well they can try.
     
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    Internet warrior, I know.
     
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