U.S. Navy Destroyer Armed With Tomahawks Arrives Off Syrian Coast, "Harassed" By Russian Warplanes

Our foreign minister openly said that the NATO bases in Germany are in disposition. Alot have been closed already.

It doesnt matter what i personally think. In the end Germany is the key. Its more than likely we would take us out of the frontline by neutralizing NATO forces and transmit the data to Russia in a case of war.

Putin knows that we are a shakey NATO member and he adresses us whenever he can.

It makes a much more sense for a russian military commander to pull Germany on its side.

Putin offers us our former eastern prussian areas.

What do you offer?

One of your strongest allies by power is also the most doubtful ones and more than likely will backstab you, when things get serious. We have all information from NATO which would
help to end this conflict very quick.

You are the enemy and so is Russia. But for us USA is the greater enemy.

 

Putin offered Germany Kaliningrad and western Poland? That’s very interesting. Care to back that up?

 

And neither will France or GB enter a war for Israel, no matter how strong the zionist are out there, because their electoral bases wouldn't accept it.

 

Yes. It goes on since years

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...alks-with-Russia-to-take-back-Konigsberg.html

Putin offers us the land if we support their weak economy and work closer with them. Former chancellor Schröder is a close friend of Putin.

Putin brings this up again and again. You do understand that this is a very good offer and what can you offer of equal worth?

 

This link is from 2001.

 

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Sometimes it's necessary to stand up and take that chance to show you mean business and refuse to accept being bullied.

 

The Russians will attack the missiles as well as their launching pad, which means the ships. I think the Russian attack will be electronically. The Americans might find that nothing is able to move.

The difference between the American bases and the Russian ones, is that the Russians are protecting the zones so the Syrian people can return home, while the Americans are illegally occupying the oil and gas rich area to create a nation for the Israeli friendly Kurds.

The Kurds are not indiginous to the area, so in order to accomplish the theft, they have to ethnically cleanse the Shias and Christians living there. This is probably why they bombed Raqqa to the stone age, and killed who knows how many thousands there.

But the local tribes are fighting back, and they are well organized with a formidable force.

 

Last time he made this offer was in november 2017 at an NTV interview.

Germany, against the sanctions, currently builds a massive direct pipeline from Russia to Germany. We snubbed american gas and opted for more from Russia.

Russia is in big economic trouble. The Königsberg area is very poor and expensive for Russia to maintain and supply. Putin wants to get rid of it.
We want it.

So what can you offer to counter that? I dont see much that USA can offer anymore.

 

No, it won't.

The Hessen and other German frigates have been conducting routine interoperability exercises with the U.S. Navy for years and it will detach from the HST CSG when it reaches the Med.

 

LOL - Don't get skeered, cerb.

As I just pointed out to Woogs, the Hessen won't be tagging along with the Truman for its routine patrol in the Med. Even if that carrier group does strike Syria it won't even approach the entire might of the United States Navy.

 

The only bully I know of is the US. Trump says in words what others like Obama did in action.

 

Mattis said they are still analyzing the situation. When Obama wanted to bomb Damascus on the first false flag chemical attack, it was Britain that stopped him. Seems half of Parliament has its doubts this time. Maybe they realize that Russia is not going to back down, and that Putin is prepared to respond.

 

Russia's an enemy of Germany only because it is in Nato, and takes orders from the US. That though is changing. Germany and the EU took losses over the American sanctions, but the US who imposed the sanctions didn't. That says a lot.

I'm curious, did Russia really say that it would give up Kalingrad? I bet that changed now. I can't see Putin trusting Merkel after the way she treated him with the coup and the annexation of Crimea. Kaliningrad is much too strategic for Russia to play games.

Besides, Putin lost all faith in Germany and the EU and has now aligned with China. Seems like Washington screwed you people big time. According to Friedman of the Stratfor Institute, the US intent from way back was to keep Germany and Russia apart. I think he's mistaken though, because the US was isolationist in the past. I think it was Britains intent before, and now it's Washington's intent.

 

Actually Sobo, Vladimir Putin was shocked that Merkel would object to Crimea joining Russia since Moscow didn't object to E. Germany joining the West. Yet nations like France were hesitant about them reuniting, even though they suffered nothing compared to Russia in WWII.

This is why Putin said the hell with Europe with its so called 'Western values', and became a Eurasian. China now benefits.

 

Perhaps to keep the drum beat of war going. Funny how this happens right after Trump declares the withdrawal of our troops. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/04/world/middleeast/trump-syria-troops.html
Why in Gods name would Assad use chemical weapons when he has the situation under control and knows the US is about to pull out? Makes absolutely no sense except to those who don't want us to leave.

 

Interesting. What is the plan for the people living there now? Will Germans kicked out be able to petition for lost property?

 

Hmm..., UK PM Theresa May has ordered UK submarines to travel within striking range of Syria, meanwhile France is already positioning their ships off Syria. So much for your analysis.
See:
UK Moves Submarines Next To Syria, Strikes May Begin As Soon As Thursday
https://nwostop.com/2018/04/11/uk-m...-syria-strikes-may-begin-as-soon-as-thursday/

 

Think im gonna book a last minute vacation for this weekend somewhere deep in the forests away from brussels. You never know russia actually responds when uk,france and the us attack syria.

If you have somebody in a corner the worst thing you can do is keep provoking it, at some point if you keep it up they wil lash out or in this case shoot back.

 

To repeat my stance - what worries me ('skeers' me lol ) is the possibility of inadvertent escalation which subsequently becomes uncontrollable; I don't have any confidence in the intelligence or nous of our current political classes that they'd know how best to handle it. In fact I'm beginning to see the early signs of megalomania in your president, and that's a serious psychological flaw in this kind of dangerous scenario.

 

There is not much population living there, because there is zero industry left. I think if they find an agreement, it will be in a way that germany pays for their resettlement.

Putin has a big problem in eastern siberia. China acts more and more agressive. So Putin setteles more and more russians in the far east of russia. So Germany could build infrastructure and citis there.

Germany already builds up Russias highspeed rail system.

 

Reading the tea leaves, if the strikes are going to happen they will probably be better off coming today than later when the USS Harry S. Truman and its strike group sail into the Med next week with exponentially more firepower. This would mean that Trump, May, et al, have opted for a small, surgical strike that is less likely to escalate into a broader conflict where the larger powers wind up locking horns.

 

Bad news for you. Chancellor Merkel just said, Germany will not participate in any military adventure

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland...igung-an-Militaerschlag-gegen-Syrien-aus.html

 

Yeah, the swine Merkel has the U.S. there to protect Germany's ass in a war....and that's why she spreads her legs for the Russians, to keep them appeased....but which she will regret one day!

 

1. Dont insult my country.
2. dont insult my chancellor.
3. Germany shares no border with Syria nor do we have any interests there. We dont start a war because of nonsense like this. We dont want be dragged into this. So far we presidected the Iraq war desaster and stayed out of it. We predicted the Libyan desaster and stayed out of it. And we now predict a syrian desaster as well.

So honestly do you want us to fight a war we dont believe in? How do you fight when you dont believe for what you fight for?

 

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Then if I were you, I'd send a strong message to your PM Theresa May in regard to the UK submarines loaded with missiles on their way to the M.E.