U.S. Navy Destroyer Armed With Tomahawks Arrives Off Syrian Coast, "Harassed" By Russian Warplanes

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  1. Concord

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    There's a point when you cross from poetry into delusion.

    Simply untrue. 150 years ago our nations were almost equal in economic strength. We are now about 5 times more powerful than you by this metric.

    Even if we assume that the Americans are on the verge of catastrophe (which I don't believe), that catastrophe will not see the United States reduced to the stature of modern Germany.
     
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    Looks like Russians are backing away from retaliation threats.
    It’s sad to see France switching spots with Germany. France used to be this gutless country that is afraid of its own shadow. Now France, along with UK and the US got some respect from Russia while Germany was sitting in a corner soiling its pants.

    Don’t be surprised when Russia starts to push Germany around. Putin respects nothing but force!
     
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    Better rein in your French vassals then, because they're just as inclined to get involved in the Middle East as the Americans are.

    The Germans play a leading role, but they don't "dominate" the EU in any significant sense.

    We have a higher life expectancy than East Germany.

    Keep falling. This is a discussion about geopolitical strength, and you're a third rate power.
     
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    Syria got its stockpile from USSR and Russia.
    And even if it came from Germany somehow - this is nothing to be proud of.
    Also, supplying chemical weapons to someone doesn’t prove your power in anyway. French officially have more guts than Germans now.
     
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    My PM is so thick she wouldn't understand what I was saying. She's one of the three stooges.
     
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    Syria hasn't got a stockpile, it was removed by NATO 4 years ago, remember?
     
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    It was “removed” by Russia. I guess Russians missed a few warehouses, or gave everything back. Putler isn’t exactly a trustworthy man.
     
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    But don't you understand - if you 'incinerate the regime' Islamic State and its friends will just waltz in and take Syria for its caliphate, regroup, organise themselves, and then spread their tentacles towards your country, then it'll be you who's 'suffering and dying'?? And strangely enough you seem to want them to do exactly that, otherwise you'd get stuck in with the Russians and Assad? (gawd it's like trying to teach children!)
     
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    Moot point! " . . . the US and Russia to remove or destroy Syria's arsenal of chemical weapons by the middle of 2014."

    . . . and they're members of NATO? The fact remains the stockpile was removed. Good try at dissembling the truth though!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23876085
     
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    This is from your own source. The US didn’t really participate in destroying of these weapons - Russia was trusted to do so. But since 2014 Putin was proven to be a liar so many times, no one even expects him to tell the truth anymore.
     
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    If you have evidence of that, would you care to share it with us, because it doesn't sound right to me? For one thing, why would the US trust its sworn enemy to do the deed, and accept that it had been satisfactorily completed? As to president Putin's 'many' lies, can you give an example of one - preferably with a dependable link to back it up?
     
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    Putin claimed Russian soldiers were not involved in occupation of Crimea. A year later he admitted that they were.
    I’m not supplying links, you know very well what I’m talking about. And if you are truly ignorant - google is your friend.
    That was an example of just one lie. There many more.
     
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    But no links to any of them! lol Like I said - spam those who are gullible enough to believe you.
     
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    Experts see it different

    http://quillette.com/2017/05/19/eu-...ire-peter-hitchens-geopolitics-future-europe/

    I back what i say with facts. And fact is Germany has a higher life expectancy than americans. West and Eastern states.

    You are a 3rd world country by infrastructure and your global influence shrinks so dramatical that we aleady distance from USA.
     
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    You are wrong. The chemical weapons are supplied from Germany

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/0...tack-rockets-made-in-germany-report-says.html

    What guts do french have? Making empty threats, hiding behind USA? Looks quite pathetic and weak.
     
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    Germany didn’t make chemical weapons. The article talks about rockets.
    The chemical attack, that’s the center of this discussion, happened by a drop of the bomb from helicopter. Didn’t involve a rocket.
     
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    No, actual not. Large parts of USA live in poverty. In tent cities. USA has no health care system. A 4 years lower life expectancy and a child mortality that is higher than in any other industrial country.

    Add the fact of gigantic crime numbers and rotten infrastructure and you get the complete picture.

    FACT: In the United States nearly 14% of Americans live in poverty – about 40 million people — compared to 6% in France, 8% in Britain, and 5% in Germany, Sweden and Belgium. Twenty percent of American children live below the poverty line, as do nearly 23% of the elderly, the highest figure by far in the west with the exceptions of Russia and Mexico. The U.S. is ranked 29th in infant mortality, tied with Poland and Slovakia (in 1960 the U.S. was ranked twelfth) and 37th in health care (France is ranked first). The wealthiest 10 percent of Americans now owns 70 percent of the wealth but in Germany the top 10 percent owns 44 percent.

    The claim that Americans have a higher standard of living is based on the U.S. having a higher ‘average income’ than most European countries. But average income doesn’t convey much about income distribution; if Bill Gates walked into a bar the ‘average income’ of everyone in the bar would increase by about a billion dollars!

    Besides, Europeans invest their wealth into other important things besides income that benefit everyone equally, such as quality health care, child care, more vacations, more generous retirement pensions, paid parental leave after childbirth, free or nearly free college education, affordable housing, supportive senior care, better parks and more. In today’s economically insecure age, quality of life is not only about income levels but also about adequate support institutions for families and individuals. If the average American has more income than a European, how come Europeans have a much higher savings rate than Americans?
     
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    You are making crap up I already explained to you where you went wrong and you're just trying to get around it
     
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    Lets face the facts.

    Germany wants this war to end as soon as possible, so we can deport more sysrians back to syria. Assad is winning. We already make deals wth Assad and our foreign office starts the checks for areas where
    syrians can be deported.

    Germany has zero, absolute zero interest in prolonging this war.

    So you now want us to bomb Assad and support crazy ISIS islamist, create more refugees which storm against our border?

    Thats ridicolous. France and UK are portraid as american poodles in our media. As pathetic weaklings who do as ordered.
     
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    You explained ****. Your murder rate is 21 times higher than German murder rate. Your rape rate is 12 times higher.

    You denie that your infant mortality is magnitudes higher than ours?

    Your country appears like a shithole for the majority of Germans. I saw Alabama. I would never want to live like that.
    It looks like Russia.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/...est-standard-of-living-social-progress-index/

    USA ranks 4 places behind Germany in living standards.
     
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    Lets agree to disagree. I see the USA in large areas as 3rd world shithole and i´m happy that my nation has not such a low level.

    If you are happy with the circumstances, then thats good for you.
     
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    Facts show that you are wrong you can see whatever you want to see but you really need to go get some glasses
     
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    I showed the facts and posted the links. The numbers are there. In living standards Germany is rank 15 globally. USA is 19th. Behind Spain, Belgium and France.

    All you do is terror propaganda. I reported your post where you advertised terror bombs against my country.
     
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    Definition of snitch for English Language Learners. : a person who tells someone in authority (such as the police or a teacher) about something wrong that someone has done : someone who snitches!
     
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