Noone cares

When the media and the democrats talk about the Stormy Daniels crap and the Russian "collusion" it's all about motivating the dem base to turn out in elections. Every time I hear this garbage on the news, my movies on demand comes in really handy. Donald Trump screwing a porn star when he was not even in office at the time is no one's business and we all know the Russia crap is democrats crying sour grapes because they lost the election. The porn star is also doing this for publicity. I avoid all mainstream news as much as possible, I just watch my local news station if I have to.

 

So you decided to start a thread about how much you don't care?

 

I kinda want to know when our President has put himself in a position to be black-mailed by hookers and/or his own lawyer and whoever put up the money to pay off the hookers.
I guess I'm just strange that way. That kind of leverage can be used a thousand ways by a thousand different people in the U.S. and abroad.

 

The story is a distraction to have you stop talking about war, healthcare, stagnant salaries, taxes. You know, stuff we should be talking about.

PS: Bad strategy by the Democrats, they are showing they have nothing to offer outside of Trump being a bafoon.

 

Peter Noone? He cares?

 

My heart feel question is why the hell did not Trump lawyer have his hard drives and files encrypted???

Hell you can even buy hard drives that have the encrypting build into the drives.

 

These people are old man, listen to them talk about the internet or cyber warfare. They sound like children in a sandbox.

 

Not only do you fail to understand why an independent judge and a trump-appointed DA say otherwise, "noone" isn't a word.

If you have a legal argument that can be used, then you should probably call Michael Cohen's lawyer.

Assuming you don't know this, Cohen was trump's lawyer but now needs his own lawyer.

 

When I hear something like this, I think back to Bill Clinton and all the affairs he had prior to entering the office of the president and then to top that off, the Oval Office. I have to smile when I see the same Democrats who defended the heck out of Bill now jumping all over Trump. It all comes down to politics. Republicans tried to take advantage of Flowers, Jones, Lewinsky and some more. Today the democrats are trying to take advantage of Stormy. Myself, I really didn't care back then and don't today. Those same Democrats said back then only Hillary should care.

You may have another reason for wanting to know. I don't even know if you was around during Bill's era. I'm a weird one on this, I believe one either cares about both or doesn't care about both. That one should care only about because of the R or the D next to the president name and not the other.

Now I do care how a president governs, Bill did a good job even though I never voted for him. I think he was a good president. I voted Perot twice. Trump, I'd throw a ton of adjectives his way. Although none of those adjectives would be because of Stormy. Just about everything else though.

I find it interesting to see why someone feels or views things the way they do. Especially when it isn't based on the R or D next to someone's name.

 

A lot of those Democrats aren't even alive any more. And Clinton was impeached.

Beyond that, he wasn't having unprotected sex with a hooker at the same time he was impregnating his new bride.

But this is really about serious laws being broken, not lying about sex.

 

Most definitely.

And every one was an 'Enery...

She wouldn't have a Willie nor a Sam...

Herman definitely curr.

 

Trump's lawyer ? So you admit should be client privileged? How could it not be ? I know , it's Trump, anything is ok . .
Now imagine the FBI or these new your cops breaking into Hillary and bills lawyers office and home and removing even an ash tray . What would the media be doing ? You know !

 

there's always a difference to justify why one was okay and the other completely wrong. That's how partisanship and loyalty to a political party works. Bill used if some of the news reports are right his position as governor. How do you know back in the 70's and 80's Bill himself didn't have unprotected sex with those women of his? Perhaps not a hooker and can you be sure he wasn't bedding those gals when Hillary was pregnant with Chelsey? I don't think none of us know.

I really don't care one way or the other on either president. But I do get a chuckle out of the partisan hypocrisy. Especially among the older leaders of the Democratic Party. How quickly do they forget. In the end it all boils down for most the difference between the R and the D. Those two letters determine what is okay and what is not depending which is at the end of the last name.

 

If the only charge brought against Trump is for lying about sex, I will join you in protesting. But that isn't what Mueller and the Southern District of NY are investigating.

 

Mueller's team has already been discredited by the DoJ's Inspector General's current and ongoing investigations, an Obama appointee BTW. Mueller is just milking it for political purposes.

Steve

 

It sounds more like he doesn't care unless he's being told what he wants to believe.

 

Of course, the porn star (and her attorney) are doing it for publicity.

She has his number, too. And she'll ride Trump all the way to the bank too!

They are making no bones about it either.

The rest of us are very entertained by watching Trump being snared in the same sort of cheap celebrity scandal that his base eats like catnip.

 

Can you link to where Mueller's team has been discredited? I won't hold my breath.

 

You don't need a link. IT TAKES A RATIONAL MIND TO THINK CRITICALLY.

Steve

 

For me, the Stormy issue by itself is really nothing. As others have said, we've all known Trump was as sleazeball for decades, that's so well known it's not even news anymore. And I would have to agree with those who've said that there are hypocrites among the Democrats who gave Bill Clinton a pass on his behavior but are trying to call Trump to task for his. Who you're having sex with is really not the problem.

The underlying issue here though, which was the same with Clinton, are the lies. Hereagain, Trump has been a well-known liar for decades and that's not even news anymore either. But, now he's the president and must be held to a higher standard when it comes to honesty. The same was true for Clinton and how I felt about that. The sex wasn't the issue, it was the dishonesty that was. Folks will say that politicians lie and that's just how it is, and they're right, but unfortunately that's like saying that kids will be kids when they get into a fight or do something stupid/dangerous/hurtful etc etc.

All that means is that you should expect it, not that you should excuse it.

So for me, Stormy represents little more than entertainment as I watch those who've spent time, even on this forum, chastising Clinton for his behavior while giving Trump a pass. And vice versa. If no one is going to care about the underlying dishonesty, which is the real problem, they're going to find whatever reasons they can to excuse any behavior. Not much a person can do about that except watch.

 

My comments had nothing to do with Russia or even Mueller. It had to do with the reaction of Democrats to Stormy Daniel and their complete opposite reaction to Flowers, Jones, et. al.

You are the first to equate Stormy, Jennifer, Paula, Monica etc. and the two partisan parties reaction to them which was completely opposite as each has done a 180 from Bill to the Donald to Russia and Mueller. Congratulation on making that leap. I wasn't even talking about charges being brought. Just how much the D's defended Bill to the hilt while the GOP raked him over the coals and their complete hypocritical reversal with Trump where the GOP is defending him to the hilt and the Democrats are raking him over the coals.

Bottom line, no core values or beliefs from either major party.

 

It's pretty sad democrats have nothing to offer to the American people and they have to resort to this garbage. You all have no economic plans or healthcare plans to benefit America. I mean what is your message besides Trump is "evil" That's right you don't have a message,nothing, but hate. You all don't want anyone to do well, I've never seen a pathetic miserable group of people in my life. You all just have so much hatred in your hearts.

 

It's very simple, the dems need their base to turnout in the midterms while most of us could care less.

 

I feel the same. I don't care for the lies but then I don't care for people publicizing the private lives of people. Personal pecadillos don't affect people doing their job. The distractions that arise from the publicity certainly do. We need to concentrate on what politicians do in office and pass on the garbage.

 

I don't care about the Trump vs. Stormy Daniels drama either, in fact it's kinda humorous that a pornstar of all people is his archnemesis. Not a gang member, political rival, evil dictator, alien entity or supervillain.....but a pornstar.

At the same time, I'm amazed at all the people who claimed personality and "content of their character" was very important for previous presidents (especially Obama) but are now suddenly okay with letting personality issues slide for Trump.