A Simple Question for Those Are Still Opposed to Same Sex Marriage

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If the US suddenly eliminated all marriage laws would she still your wife, or do you get to leave her simply because it is no longer a law?

 

I’m doing no such thing. Marriage is a legal institution.

No, they would only be married if the marriage was recognized by the government.

 

I can leave her now if I wanted to. We would no longer be legally married, if the government stopped recognizing any type of marriage. We would simply be pair bonding.

 

For the purpose of this thread and every debate on same sex marriage in the US, the legal institutions of marriage are what is being discussed as per US law. Y’all can cease with the redherrings.

It is what was fought for and won in the eyes of the courts. Not religious marriage, not “I’m gonna call this marriage even though it’s not recognized by anyone” marriage, not marriage in Canada, not marriage in Mexico, not marriage to my dog.

To answer your question, legally no you would no longer be married.

 

It is THE reason marriage should be limited to opposite sex couples and that's why you want to run from it as far as you can.

 

Thus empowering government to dictate how we live, what we think and what to believe. The LWers are using this exact same philosophy to shred the Constitution.

 

You said it was "false" not irrelevant. And since you have no argument to demonstrate that it is "false", you now run to the irrelevant label.

 

Marriage is a purely voluntary institution. And Id rather see government encouraging men and women to marry in order to improve the wellbeing of children that only they produce, than see them encouraging gay marriage to win more "respect and dignity" for homosexuals.

 

By "encouraging" you mean violate the 14th Amendment? To segregate Americans into those being favored by the almighty Federal government and those who are not?

 

but constitutional law doesn't work that way. You have to show a government interest served by BANNING same sex couples from marriage. Not an interest served by INCLUDING opposite sex couples. This is why you lost in court.

 

nobody is encouraging either type of marriage, and you've been corrected on your moronic claim of "respect and dignity" enough times that you should be embarrassed by now.

 

you don't understand how constitutional law works. There is no violation of the 14th amendment between the married and unmarried.

 

Recognizing couples made up of men and women as being the only couples who procreate, isn't segregating.
And absurd argument when you are talking about laws by design that discriminate between the married and unmarried

 

No one was banned. Same sex couples are free to marry without the government recognition. It was only men and women who were prohibited by state laws from cohabitating or having sexual relations without a marriage license. And those laws are now all gone.

 

It is both false and irrelivant.

 

Except that it isn’t, the potential of procreation is not relevant to marriage. Your argument failed in every court across the US.

 

What you would “rather” happen is irrelivant. And don’t try to make this about children of you would be proposing something that benifited all children regardless of weather they had their biological parents, adopted parents, a single parent or same sex parents.

 

Except that’s not what the law did, it allowed any homosexuals couple to wed regardless of their ability to procreate. They were given benifits simply because they were a heterosexual couple, not because their union might result in a child. Which is unconstitutional

 

In your opinion. LOL

Disagreed.

 

My wife and I married at age 59 and 60, respectively. Are you saying that we shouldn't be allowed to marry because we do not plan on nor are capable of precreating?

 

You of course know that is a lie. Same sex couples were banned.

there is no such thing. There is only marriage, which is a legal institution.

you didn't address anything I posted, which is of course your typical, though pathetic, debate style.

but constitutional law doesn't work that way. You have to show a government interest served by BANNING same sex couples from marriage. Not an interest served by INCLUDING opposite sex couples. This is why you lost in court.

 

Nor is it relevant to marriage.

 

nope, in the opinion of the united states supreme court. Your agreement with them or not is entirely irrelevant to US law.

 

Wow! I had not idea SCOTUS ruled I "don't understand how constitutional law works". You'd think they were too busy to worry about lil' ol' me.

 

I'm sorry that you posted something stupid, and got called on it. I really am.