Civil terrorist’ David Hogg mocks Oliver North:

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  1. Moonglow

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    Can you prove any of this or do you convict on hearsay and conjecture?
     
  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pretty sure you are repeating yourself or repeating what another person said who had no argument to use.
     
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    At least you agree with President Trump that Iran is our enemy.
     
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    Huh?

    "Right out"? huh? Since you show difficulty with grammar or spelling in most of your posts, I have to assume you also have difficulty grasping what Hogg did. You asserted that he "attacked all law abiding gun owners", etc. with zero supporting data, and I don't believe it for a New York second.

    So "never once...not once did (they) attacked(sic)"....

    And you want me to believe what you say. :wall:
     
  5. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What if I used photos would that help ?

    You are capable of comprehending photos aren't you ?

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    Notice the leftist clinched fist.
    Notice the infamous "Baby Blue Marine" jacket and trousers of a washout of society.
    Notice the black shirt of fascist/Antifa.

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    On the left a beta lesbian snowflake...on the right an omega male snowflake

    I bet the lesbo snowflake skinhead can kick the omega male snowflake ass in the first round in the ring.
     
  6. Kode

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    What I notice is that all you had was character assassinations. "Name-calling". Trump would be proud of you.
     
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    Well ones a criminal and one isn’t...
    I like vets who didn’t get convicted of felonies
     
  8. Kode

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    @Steve N doesn't get caught up in details. It's either black or white.
     
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    When a bogus "conviction" is set aside for prosecutorial misconduct, you don't get to keep claiming the victim of the malfeasance was "convicted of felonies".

    Sorry. I know that pops your current Madeup Bullshit episode....
     
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    When a bogus "conviction" is set aside for prosecutorial misconduct, you don't get to keep claiming the victim of the malfeasance was "convicted of felonies".
     
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    Mafia Don will be upset that such a major swamp dweller isn't in his govt.
     
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    If you had a way to murder him and 100% get away with it no questions asked, would you?
     
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    Yes I too strongly dislike the use of the term "terrorist" to describe people who haven't killed dozens to advance political or religious goals.

    In fact, I see much of the same Nazi baiting on the right over Hogg as I do on the left over anyone to the right of Stalin.
     
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    Your hatred of youth causes you to be unable to look at things cogently: Oliver North who helped actually fund real live terrorists (even if they were the terrorists we supported) attacked Hogg and his character, calling him a terrorist. All Hogg did was respond to that completely asinine attack with an actual fact about the Iran-Contra scandal and North's participation in the scheme.
    And somehow your takeaway is that Hogg is the bad guy here.
     
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    Are you seriously defending Colonel Oliver North here? Tell me, your brain is still intact and your perception of realities is still working?

    How should I understand your comment now? If someone wears a uniform and acts as a soldier of US Forces, then he is automatically innocent and a victim if accused to have done evil?

    If you still seriously call the Iran - Contra affair with all its details a fake, then you belong in Lala Land!
     
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    This is going to shock you. While they both have a service record, Oliver North and John McCain are different people with very different past histories. Not only is it permissible to distinguish their characters and their pasts, it is obligatory to so distinguish, if you have any brains. You are going to have to pay some attention to what those 'hate bombs' say and what they refer to, to see if it is logical to call others hypocrites. There was this little matter of Watergate in the past of one veteran, and there was no Watergate in the past of the other. They said different things in the course of their lives and those different quotes frame how people see them. . One has a voting record as a Senator on which we partially judge, while the other has been on trial for several criminal charges on which we partially judge.

    I will also remind you that the left will not waste their time proving anything to people too dumb to understand that two veterans are still two wholly disparate persons and will inevitably not be worthy of the same treatment.
     
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    You genuinely don't realise the difference?

    Trump criticised McCain for having served in Vietnam and for having been captured. He criticised McCain, who endured torture.

    North called Parkland activists civil terrorists. Hogg pointed out that, having sold arms to Iran, North should know something about terrorism. Which is a fair point, since Trump, just a couple of days ago, repeatedly called Iran a state sponsor of terrorism.

    It isn't about criticising a Vietnam vet. What Trump did was to criticise McCain specifically FOR his service in Vietnam. Can you imagine how the right would have reacted if Obama had made that comment about McCain? But you give Trump a pass. Absolutely zero principles.
     
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    Are you fit to wash them.
     
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    Uh didn't we have 2 Republicans as POTUS in the early 70s.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] Which covers the years of 1969 - 1977.

    ...........and yet folks like you attack Sen. McCain and Robert Mueller, post the ribbons that they were awarded during their military service.
     
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    North 100 percent commited those felonies.
    North helped illegally sell weapons to Iran, helped illegally fund a terrorist organization, helped destroy incriminating documents and was found guilty of accepting an illegal gratuity, aiding and abetting in the obstruction of a congressional inquiry, and ordering the destruction of documents, but those convictions were overturned because it was deemed that his testimony in congress could not be used against him.
    He did demonstrably commit felonies, it's just that he benefited from our legal system and a technicality was used to get him off the conviction (not disputing the overturn, as it is one of the foundations of our legal system (the right not to self incriminate) , which somehow when cops beat a confession out of a guy people scream out that a criminal piece of crap got out on a technicality, but here you North supporters now call it misconduct)
    North did all of those things, he has just not been held legally accountable for them.
     
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    I'm surprised Hogg is still in the news. This kid has had his 15 minutes of fame, and it didn't go well for him. Under the spotlight, he self-destructed, which is not a surprise since he's just a kid.
     
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    You know he is ;).
     
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    The gun nuts are sure obsessed with David Hogg! They're just about the only ones talking about him.
     
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    He isn't.

    But the gun nuts can't get enough of him. They keep bringing him up.
     
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    They fear him....it's that simple. Shut Hogg up at any cost.
     

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