"Trump just tweeted that “crime in Germany is way up.”

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    archives Well-Known Member

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    "It’s actually at its lowest level since 1992."

    "President Trump decided this morning to take a very odd step of sounding off about the domestic politics of a major ally, Germany. His core factual assertion that “crime in Germany is way up” is the opposite of true."

    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump
    The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!

    9:02 AM - Jun 18, 2018

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-crime-germany
    https://www.politico.eu/article/germ...st-since-1992/

    It's actually not really noteworthy that Trump lied again, he does it daily, and often more than once daily, but the phenomenal thought is that there are people out there that believe what he says regardless of the FACT that he lies continuous

    It's comparable to believing Aesop's boy who cried wolf even after you knew he was lying
     
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    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    What a joke of a President. Anyone who voted for him should sit out a few elections.
     
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    Crime is "down" according to the section of Germany's government that is responsible for making migrants look better.

    The same government body that makes its citizens feel that if they report migrant crime, or talk about migrant crime, or object to the governments handling of migrant crime then they will face charges themselves.

    Combine that with the fact that in the migrant dense cities of Germany their police have been instructed not to write reports of most migrant crime.

    So is it "down" because its actually down or because they've just stopped counting.
     
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    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    And it is "up" according to an individual who wants to demonize immigrants. Only one of them have any facts or statistics to support their case, and it isn't Donald Trump.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does anyone really believe that a country can import hundreds of thousands of people who have no respect for the law and take what they want when they want it and crime dropped?
     
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    Except when their government tells the local police to stand down or ignore migrant crimes they don't catalog the incidents.

    So they have some "facts" and "statistics" but they're incomplete.

    And so if they're not counting all crime then how can they say crime is down?

    Its like how we use UI benefits enrollments to measure unemployment rate - when people run out of their UI benefits they're not counted as being unemployed.

    Except if they didn't find a job when the UI ran out they're still unemployed aren't they.

    And thats why the real unemployment numbers are the ones to pay attention to.

    Whats Germany's real crime figures? ...we don't know.

    We're only provided with incomplete data and the reason that its incomplete is because the government has invested interest in masking migrant crime.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what are the real numbers the news says here thiers a increase in violet crimes thier
    video time 0:33
     
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    The US crime has doubled in less than 5 years, now prove that is wrong if you don't believe it
     
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    Got it, its all fake news because it proves Trump lied, you really got to put down the kool aid and get out more
     
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    Do you have a link for the part in bold or are you making it up?
     
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    Wow, there is only one way to describe that view

     
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    Does anyone take a lefty beta male post seriously?
     
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    It makes you realise that the msn has their meathooks in the minds of the undesirable.
     
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    If everything is so hunky-dory in Germany, why may Merkel be out of a job by next week? People are sick of her open-door immigration policy. 86% of Germans want the borders closed, and she has been given 2 weeks to do it.
    As for the stats, they aren't quite as they seem according to der Spiegel. Authorities say that crime is going down, yet 44% of Germans say that they feel less secure. Roughly 20% of known crime is not recorded in the annual police report. Terrorism incidents are not included and 93% of sexual offenses and 2% of hate crimes are not reported.
     
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    Thats an awful lot of crazy you got going on there.
     
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    In theory you sound correct but what are the facts? I want to deal with facts not the lies of the Lying King and the peope who love him.
     
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    That is exactly what it said.
     
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    How will she be out of job by next week?
     
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    Crime is at Levels comparable in 1970's down 50 % from the high in 1994 see graph below. So crime is way Down

    We can blame all of the crime on Trumps MS-13 fictitious million member pirate gang don't you know..............

    Crime.JPG
     
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    January 2018

    Migrants may be responsible for most of a recent rise in violent crime in Germany, research commissioned by the government suggests.
    The study used data from Lower Saxony, a state where more than 90% of the rise was attributed to young male migrants.
    The researchers say the findings are not surprising because many migrants who arrived in Germany in recent years are single males aged 14-30.
    This group is most likely to commit crime, irrespective of nationality.
    The researchers also said that migrants were twice as likely to be reported to police for alleged violent crimes as German nationals.
    The report comes as Chancellor Angela Merkel's centre-right CDU/CSU prepares for coalition talks with the centre-left SPD.
    Both groups were seen as being hurt by their apparently liberal migration policies in September's election.
     
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    What do the crime figures say?

    The latest official crime figures we have from Germany show that 5.76 million crimes were reported in 2017. As a percentage of the population, this means crime is now at its lowest level for 30 years.

    What about crime by foreigners?
    Crime by foreigners specifically is also down significantly – and even more sharply. The figure of crimes by non-German nationals fell by 23 per cent since last year, from 950,000 to just over 700,000.


    Why did Trump say this if it's wrong?

    The president, an avid consumer of right-wing US media, may have picked up on reports of violence involving foreign nationals in Germany. A number of sex crimes in 2015 and 2016 involving foreign nationals were widely reported around the world at the height of the refugee crisis, but the figures suggest they do not appear to be typical.

    Sounds like a Trump deflection. One of many.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...te-immigrants-migrants-refugees-a8404786.html

    Domestically, Mr Trump is facing criticism for his immigration policies, including the keeping of undocumented migrants in cages and the separation of mothers from their children. In that context, he may have wanted to highlight a claimed downside of a more open policy.
     
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    Bigot? Facts can’t be bigoted. Why do you guys always toss around insults when you have no argument?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By any chance, are you a lawyer on Muellers team? You sound like one.
     
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    Don't believe it...politicians notoriously under report crime statistics especially in Europe. All one has to look at to know this is true, is check out Angela Merkel's recent poll numbers which are very low and unfavorable.

    This is yet another situation where a liberal leader GAVE AWAY a country. Sure they can get rid of her alright, but they'll still be stuck with all the crap she let in. All over the world liberals are the ruin of everything. No one knows this more than us in the U.S.

    https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2018/06/16/angela-merkel-could-soon-lose-power-in-germany/amp/?amp_js_v=a1&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE=#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://nypost.com/2018/06/16/angela-merkel-could-soon-lose-power-in-germany/

    http://amp.dw.com/en/bavarian-conservative-csu-defies-angela-merkel-on-migration-policy/a-44221670
     
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