"Trump just tweeted that “crime in Germany is way up.”

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  1. ThelmaMay

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    The news program and the party Alternative for Germany discussed in this video is a right-wing to far-right political party in Germany.

    Not a valid source
    of information.
     
  2. ThelmaMay

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    What is the source of these pictures? A RW propaganda site? Give the source of these pictures. Not everyone is so easily swayed by RW propaganda.
     
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    The rest of your post shows that what you really mean is that Trump's claim can only be verified by making **** up.
     
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    Yea because the Germans just have to be lying, because we all know anything that your God says can be etched in stone. smfh.
     
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    Yea its mathematically undeniable.

    Many of these cucked nations will enter into a period of economic collapse in our lifetime - which will be a serious world scale threat for future generations.
     
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    Nobody can verify the facts if they're being covered up by politicians who now realise they've screwed up big time but will never in a million years admit it?
     
  7. zbr6

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    More pictures you say?

    Ok.

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    Then you have no clue about germany

    https://rsf.org/en/ranking

    It has a much higher press freedom ranking then the US.

    SO again where is the actual news storys about this? You of course know why because its moslty BS.
     
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  9. truth and justice

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    So your proof that immigrant crime is being hidden by the government is photos of immigrants being beaten up by Hungarian police? You Trump fans have lost it!
     
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    I don't see any police uniforms in those pics. [​IMG]
     
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    Source, please (I live in Germany and I dare to say I'm probably a hundred times more familiar with these topics than you are, and that's meant as a fact just like you are more familiar with american domestic politics).

    Source, please.

    What exactly are you trying to prove by showing random pics? The first is clearly not from Germany as we can see by the uniforms. The last pic I have seen several times, and it was always said it's from Syria. Are these your sources? I hope not. You'll have to excuse me when I find it very hard to take what you say seriously if these are your sources.

    Unfortunately and as almost always on this board, too many people are very ill-informed, misinformed or have deliberately decided to ignore facts that contradict their narrative.
    Most recent crime statistics show that crime is lowest in 25 years in Germany. Doesn’t fit some people’s narrative, but is true (German language skills needed) https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/pks-kriminalstatistik-101.html

    These data were recently published by Interior Secretary Horst Seehofer. Now if our yank friends were familiar with these things, they’d know Seehofer is the very guy who has been putting enormous political pressure on Merkel for weeks now. In fact, he has been one of her most outspoken critics (but not the only one) and he is the main reason non-German speaking papers say “Merkel could soon lose power in Germany.” If these data were manipulated as some users here claim, wouldn’t it make sense for Seehofer’s ministry to use much higher numbers and put even more pressure on Merkel?

    Somebody has already mentioned this study on violent crimes in which the researchers looked at data from Lower Saxony. Lower Saxony is one of sixteen states in Germany, yet the study claims its findings could be regarded as representative of the whole of Germany. Some people have agreed, other researchers have disagreed saying it shows the situation in Lower Saxony only.
    https://www.zhaw.ch/storage/shared/sozialearbeit/News/gutachten-entwicklung-gewalt-deutschland.pdf
    The findings clearly specify the problematic groups.
    Between 2014 – 2016, violent crime rose by 10,6 percent in Lower Saxony. A tad over 90 percent of that 10,6 percent increase was caused by refugees/asylum seekers, vast majority being from the Maghreb states. This is probably the no. one problem group, we can read that in many reports and articles (‘not reported’ is utter nonsense).
    The report also notes that people are twice as likely to report crimes if they are committed by people who are different from them, causing some distortion in the crime statistics. Btw, vast majority of victims of violent crimes committed by refugees are other refugees.

    It's really interesting to read American articles on this topic and then compare them to the original German sources, gives you an insight into why so many of our American friends are rather ill-informed when it comes to other countries' domestic affairs.
    As for the ‘not reporting’, sorry, that old song is simply false. It really seems some people just listen to what they want to hear and run with it, facts don’t count anymore. Crimes committed by non-Germans (refugees, asylum seekers, immigrants – these are three different categories to which different laws and regulations are applied) are reported. One only has to read German speaking papers, especially local papers, which 99 percent of your yank friends can’t, so they have to rely on secondary sources, inaccurate translations and highly biased postings on social media.
    The argument “we had threads about that here” is among the most meaningless of all. More than 90 percent of what you read on this forum about Germany is highly inaccurate. If I believe these threads, Europe ceased to exist many years ago, everybody is being spied upon, not a single church but mosques everywhere, sharia law replaced western laws years ago, and so on. Nonsense from a – z.
    A few years ago, a female cop (Tania Kambori) published a book in which she describes her encounters with certain problematic Muslim groups (yes, there are problems - I just thought I should mention that for those who find absurd simplifications so irresistible and are happy with having seen 1% of the tip of the iceberg). Not reported? Bollocks. I really wish people knew what they were talking about before posting here.
    Btw, regarding that 'Europe is ***** and will not recover', here's something interesting. Tourism in Germany reached its eight record year in a row in 2017.
    http://www.dw.com/en/germany-sees-another-record-year-for-tourism/a-42503501
    Not recover?
     
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    What is the source of these pictures? Where are the incidents talking place? Who is involved? When is it happening? Are you so easily manipulated by pictures without any context?
     
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    Conservatives have consistently looked to Live in the past...........

    A more moderate approach is the driving force in American success !!
     
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    Crime has gone up 10% for rape & murder since the third worlders arrived.
     
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    Cameras. Europe. Migrants. Past 2 or so years. The context is "migrant crime".
     
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    The first two are from Calais, France the second from Hungary, and the third Greece. All of them migrants meeting the reality of what I'm led to believe is the migrant friendly face of a lost Europe.

    So, none of 'em to do with Germany today.

    They look scary, though, like Swarming Hordes Of Vermin and that's all that matters.
     
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    Where? Show your working.
     
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    They sure don't look like grateful supplicants having just fled from war zones to me.
     
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    Remember that one is dealing with an aspect of what nowadays passes for religious faith with leftists. So yes, these lock-step group-think politically-correct junkies DO believe what history and logic and life experiences and periodic reports refute.
     
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    As the Lying King has made up most other things.
     
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    Crime went down by 21.9 percent between 2007 and 2014, it was up again by 10.4 percent by the end of 2016. Some 83 percent of the cases were solved -- and 92.1 percent of the increase was attributable to the newcomers.
     
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    Are you allergic to providing links to support your argument?

    People in this thread have used google. They’ve posted links that prove you wrong. You’ve posted no links to support your claims.

    When one side has evidence and the other side has bigoted assertions, the latter loses.
     
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    What do out of context photos with no link prove? Outside of your own “brown people bad” biases?
     
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    Do you have a link?
     
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