Tit-for-tat: World responds to Trump's tariffs with levies on US goods

You cant be serious

America is still the weepy slightly moderate right of center is was under obama and bush

Trump is an America-First original

but there are so many flaming America-last progressives in congress that he has changed very little so far

 

Not only do we see no evidence that climate change is man made but we see no evidence that climate change is going to destroy the earth in either case

NY City used to be under a glacier 1 mile tall

Now THAT is real climate change and the oil companies had nothing to do with it

 

The existing tariffs place the U.S. at a disadvantage. Should we permanently accept that? Or should we fight it? Don't say we should beg other countries to lower their tariffs to the level of our tariffs because that won't produce any result.

 

rump only negotiates with people when he feels in a superior position. If that is not the case, then he sees her as an enemy ean and he fights enemies, but does not negotiate with them ... at least until he is in a stronger position or grandiose as often as before as CEO of his corporation was falling on his face!

As Trump once again said in an interview many years ago ...

"A good deal is only when my counterpart is not satisfied or even feels like a winner!" That says it all and Trump acts as US President.
Solving negotiation with China or the EU means being at eye level with the opposite and not in the position of the strongest. So it is not negotiated with him, but attacked ...

 

Americas former allies in europe should support trump because America is a better nation than communist china

To reject the US is to fall under the influence of a brutal dictatorship without any humanity and it will hurt the euros even more than they seek to hurt America

 

Of course ... the glaciers are melting away all over the world, the North Pole is more and more free of ice and the South Pole is melting away without end ... storms, storms, hurricanes, etc. are all increasing, weather conditions change drastically (when I was a child was, had been around Christmas / New Year's Eve always snow, today we are outside barbecue) ... all lies or sheer coincidence and has nothing to do with a climate change ... and if it does, then but not because of exhaust fumes etc.

Man .., how stupid can you actually be to believe such a BS that there is no climate change? Did Darwin really mess around and some people are the living example that evolution also has a reverse gear?
Oh no, sorry, you're probably one of those Americans who believes in the fairy tale of Adam and Eve and dinosaurs died out 15,000 years ago and damn Darwin as a devil!

 

Actually most electric cars can be recharged in about 30 minutes to about 80-90%

But unless you use only alternative energy to create electricity then electric cars are still polluting

I am neither an advocate or an enemy of electric cars

If they are practical for my needs ok

But I dont want pinhead treehuggers passing laws that force me to buy electric before I would have bought one otherwise

 

Weather is not climate

Hurricains are not more severe now than in previous years in spite of the breathless reporting we get on tv

 

German made cars could easily be driven out of the US market leaving only the cars under the BMW, VW or Mercedes mark that are built in the US being sold here.

 

Why should the EU support Trump?

I mean, if Trump chooses China as a target, then not only will I have a full understanding of it, but in fact I would actually support it.

However, Unfortunately, Trump in his incredible stupidity has selected the EU (= 27 countries!), Japan, India, Russia, Canada and Mexico as an attack target too and imsulted, threatens and punishes these countries just as he does it with China.
Somehow there is no point of reason in supporting Trump for these countries anymore if being also under his attack ... and even less sense it has to cry on US sides, why these countries are not helping Trump, eh?

 

Depending on whether you go by quantity or value, are between 50% and 75% of all cars of these 3 manufacturers which are sold in the US, Made in the USA.

Sure, the BMW SUVs are easy, simply because every single one is just Made in the USA ...
Conversely, one could also demand in Germany that every US car sold here must be built in Germany, okay?
For example, a US car that is often bought here is the US-built Ford Mustang ... I met 8 of them this morning alone on the way to work. So, vice versa, we say that each of these Mustangs must be built here in Germany.

And btw ... on each of these Ford Mustangs in Germany are the same 10% tariff and the same 19% VAT due as on every single SUV from BMW.

 

I'm okay with all Fords sold in Germany being built there. What I'm looking for is a level playing field for everyone.

 

Well then go to the table and talk about it. If you have a problem with a person, do you air your laundry to everybody that is listening? No, you don't.

Tell me this: What is the end game? What industry(s) is Trump protecting? This is all distraction.

 

We've tried that for decades and failed to get the changes we need to level the playing field. People voted for a change. Trump is the change and he's playing by his own rules.

 

The end game is a world without tariffs.

 

Sure ... I did not object to the same tariffs on both sides of the Atlantic in the US and the EU for the same goods.

An abolition of all tariffs on both sides I think is unrealistic, because it is ultimately more or less important revenue for the States and who voluntarily waives revenue? Neither the 27 EU member states, nor the US do that!

Another element of the tariff but are also protective measures for their own economy and population .... and they are and have been on both sides for a long time! These also make sense, but are also negotiable.
Another point is import restrictions and prohibitions and I see zero flexibility and that's a good thing in my opinion.

Just ... honestly now asked to you personally:

Why does not Trump come up with a proposal to the EU regarding the trariffs and adjustment that you should negotiate about it ... and just impose a few punitive tariffs instead? This is not a kind or a good basis for a solution that is good for both sides.
Above all, I wonder what Trump wants to achieve with this BS or wanted? That the EU is frozen with fear and submits to the will of Trump?
Because some of Trump's emotion that you should talk about the tariffs, did not exist!

 

Have you been thru a lot of Hurricanes?

 

Other countries already took it too far with their unfair trade practices

 

Do you believe in pink elephants flying past the window?

Because that's more likely than a world without tariffs ... just because no country waives safe revenue.
The realistic goal is an approximation of tariffs ... at least largely. But there are definitely protective tariffs on both sides, although you can certainly talk about that as well... but all will not be deleted on both sides, because both sides see a necessary protection of this or that branch in the country.

 

Talks such as you suggest have failed in the past and would fail again. Trump was hired by the Americans to change things like that.

 

Leftist hate America. Only American is bad for imposing trade barriers. Other countries may do so without impunity.

Never mind that our trade deficit with China is more than half of the total trade we have with them

1. China - $636 billion traded with a $375 billion deficit.
2. Canada - $582 billion traded with an $18 billion deficit.
3. Mexico - $557 billion traded with a $71 billion deficit.
4. Japan - $204 billion traded with a $69 billion deficit.
5. Germany - $171 billion traded with a $65 billion deficit.

Leftist who hate America think that these numbers are OK and are acceptable. They ignored ~$600 billion leaking out of our economy per year.

Or maybe they arnt smart enough to see how such a large leakage overtime can have irreversible adverse effects in the long term, unlike the short term effects of retaliatory action

 

End goal is fair trade. If someone charges us 50 cents per every dollar of car sent in, then we will do something reciprocal to that.

 

Isnt it obvious? Would people continue to buy Canadian products if the cost of Canadian goods go through the roof?

And isn't it also obvious that if less people buy Canadian goods, the less money Canada can make?

 

Nn

all that anger over a miniscule tariff on steel at affects the former allies almost none at all?

You are letting your emotions overcome your reasoning

 

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