Trump's Economy Still Unable to Rise above 3% Growth

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How? By obstructing anything and everything president Trump proposes? Think, it'll win you an election?

    BTW, Trump's job performance today is on par with Bush, Clinton and Obama at the same time in their presidencies. Better deal with it :hug:
     
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    American workers are figuring out who is on their side.
     
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    Too funny.
     
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    They do indeed
     
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    What I understand is we currently have a healthy GDP growth rate, ideal GDP Growth rate; between 2-3% sustainable, so don't **** it up!
     
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    I blame Congress. They are the lawmakers, and have deliberately chosen to change our tax laws to allow corporations to move jobs overseas without penalty, and have allowed stock buybacks instead of crafting tax laws that encourage corporations to share a portion of the profits made with the labor force that helped them become profitable. We've decided that corporations are people, and expect them to make decisions in good faith and with the best interest of people in mind, but their role is to make profit, and not much else. Laws regulate capitalism, so that the negative impacts of capitalism are minimized. Congress has failed the people and become beholden to the corporations that fuel their election funds, instead of their constituents.

    We're in the midst of class warfare right now. We've failed to learn the lessons of history, so we are repeating the same mistakes. When wealth is hoarded by a few, and the people have nothing to eat, they will eat the rich (apologies to Jean-Jacques Rousseau.)
     
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    Rebub Quote; Meanwhile Trump's economy is nearing 4% growth...such good news, eh?

    na-na-na-na

    Dem Quote: Trump's Economy Still Unable to Rise above 3% Growth

    na-na-na-na

    Those two guys belong in a playpen
     
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    When did I ever agree with you that economic demand is a word? I've been pointing out it isn't since the first time you used it, lol.
     
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    huh? Obama and the democrats had to clean up the last pile of **** that republican incompetence handed us.

    Lol, trump is riding the Obama economy and his momentum. Nothing has changed under trump. The economy, UE and stock market are following the exact same trends of the past 9 years.
     
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    I did not make up any definition and I have studied supply side. You are the one making things up.

    You make all these claims but have yet to back one of them up. Other posters had to school you on what the definition of supply side was and meant.
     
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    The average house size is 4000 square feet ? Now that is propaganda. I do think you have a point but get your numbers right first.
     
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    Well then. He'll be riding it right into re-election then. Thank you, Obama :applause:
     
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    The progressives have a low bar
     
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    MEMO

    To; The North Dakota Soybean Growers Association

    From; AFM

    Subject: YOU FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND NEGOTIATION!

    Stop biting your nails, and read; The Art of the Deal
     
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    There you go again. Too funny.
     
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    All you’ve done is made a list of things that occurred in the 80’s and claimed that is supply side economic policies. Please read about Supply Side from those who developed and implemented supply side economic policies.
     
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    How have soybean growers been harmed ??
     
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    When did I ever agree with you that economic demand is a word? I've been pointing out it isn't since the first time you used it, lol.
     
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    and you completely failed to address any of the "evidence" provided and so far you have given none of your own.
     
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    Thing is, with even the mention of class warfare the fingers of hypocrisy appear shouting marxism! Socialism! Communism! As if economic injustice(the rich structuring an economy to benefit only them) does not exist and never has existed. This cannot be done, the restructuring without congress and a president.

    What we have now are wall street bankers and MNCs being parasites on america's consumer market, sucking the blood out of america and americans while contributing nothing back. Unlike it used to be when we made most of our own consumption, thereby employing americans. It is the only way americans have of earning an income, a disposable income, by providing both goods and services to america. Take a part of that away and you hollow out an economy. In the interests of our elites. For they get richer with slave labor and open borders. It is a scheme, a ruse, and it is what happens when you give the power to big capitalists. It is the achilles heel of predatory capitalism, capitalism that only enriches the top and does not create a middle class.
     
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    Need much more time than you have given since the tax cuts. Our economy is like a slow train, not a quarter horse. You could get a burp fast, which goes away and then goes in the other direction. So time is essential when looking at anything done that one thinks will affect an economy positively.
     
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    If I had a low bar, I wouldn't be earning a 6 figure income.

    psst;

    I worked in Peru when their GDP growth rate was over 8%
    I worked in Libya when their GDP growth rate was over 8%
    I worked in Saudi Arabia when their GDP growth rate was over 8%
    I worked all over, mostly high growth regions.

    and tomorrow, they may ship me from ND to Guyana,

    Thus, I know what GROWTH is, in both developed and under-developed countries.
     
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    We agree on much. We do have a check on capitalism though, and that is through our tax system. When corporate taxes were high, business could be "encouraged" to provide higher wages or benefits to employees and use it as a tax deduction. That type of tax system built the middle class of the US. The worker shared in the profit making and most experienced the "American Dream."

    Then we allowed money in politics, cut taxes on business, and allowed wages to stagnate during a time of record breaking productivity.

    Now, we have politicians openly stating that they don't take meetings with constituents, but instead, only with donors. I'm concerned we may be going the way of Japan… no inflation, so no wage growth, and massive stimulus efforts with no economic growth, fighting the very real possibility of deflation… if we don't get money out of politics.
     
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