No, they are the accurate terms for stages in human development. Do you object to words like adult, teenager, toddler ?? . No, the "n" word was a derogatory racial slur , NOT a term denoting stages in human life. <<< MODERATOR EDIT: FLAMBAIT QUOTE AND REPLY REMOVED >>>
So then can I make the same extreme example for banning all guns...You are making the extreme sound like it happens when it doesn’t. If someone has an abortion two weeks or three weeks before her due date it becomes a delivery
What should I call a zygote? A toddler? You are the one making it something it isn’t. And comparing it to the N-word is asinine. The N-word is used it as a pejorative, a zygote or an embryo or fetus are medical terms for a potential person. I’ve noticed it’s mostly men who are so hung up on denying women reproductive freedom. I think they have uterus envy lol
What wrong with you? Of course we wait till the end of our pregnancy and realize we look too fat. Seriously it shows such contempt for women that we are so shallow that just when we are about to give birth we say let’s have an abortion. It’s interesting because men have known nothing about childbirth and they just think women flippantly make these decisions
It doesn't? Not ever? I'm completely out to lunch here! Woman Self-Aborted Her Unborn Baby in the Third Trimester and Buried the Body in the Backyard "A grand jury recently indicted a Virginia woman on a charge of self-aborting her late-term unborn baby after police discovered the baby’s remains buried in her back yard, according to the Richmond Times-Dispatch." http://www.lifenews.com/2017/04/03/...rimester-and-buried-the-body-in-the-backyard/ Here's another question for you. If someone else kills your third trimester baby it's murder so why not if the mother does it? https://www.nytimes.com/1994/05/20/us/when-the-death-of-a-fetus-is-murder.html
That’s a little different from a medical abortion. You seem to be obsessed with these very rare rare exceptions. Again I ask you should we make guns illegal because there are mass shooters? You don’t seem to answer that In answer to your question if someone kills my third trimester fetus it is against my will and that person should be criminally charged. If I cut off my finger should I be punished the same way if you cut off my finger?
Difference with your gun example is I don't have any desire to take make abortion illegal as per your example of making guns illegal. Your second example is also severely flawed. If someone else kills your fetus it's murder of a person other than you because it is a person other than you. Comparing it to your finger is really kind of sick.
It's no different. In fact it entails the rights of a women over her own body, which progressives are always wailing about. In fact, all abortions should be performed by the women herself, that way it does not enlist a third party to the homicide and those that find the practice apalling do not have to assist in paying for it.
It's a very unusual event and against the law.....what was your complaint? The link you gave SAID the woman was indicted...don't you know what that means????
The human zygote is human(adjective) . It is not A human being as in legal person. Why are you making personal comments again? If you don't have facts you don't have to advertise by insulting other posters... NO one needs your forgiveness for anything. Having sex does NOT take away women's right to their own bodies.
Oh, I proved it was quite different...but you avoided that post like the plague What assinine horsepuckey….
I love these Anti-Choicers who think that because they ignore the facts presented that destroy their wet dreams they think no one else sees the facts and their humiliating defeat.....
Sorry if the analogy went over your head.... There are no abortions done a day before delivery with health mother and fetus so,stop the nonsense .
My heart has to be softened to what, exactly? Note; my wife and I are expecting in October and I have a 2 year old. Trust me, I love kids. I told my wife if we could afford it I'd have 12 of them. I also hate abortion and hate that it exists and wish we lived in a world where it wasn't necessary for some people. But I accept that some people deserve to have the choice and love that we have the freedom to do so.
HIS heart has to be "softened"? What? And how's your heart when it comes to women having the right to their own bodies, a right YOU enjoy? Where's your heart when a poor woman gets pregnant and knows that she can't afford it especially since she has other children who will suffer more with an added mouth to feed. Where's your heart when a child grows up in an orphanage because his mother didn't want them and NO ONE ELSE did either? Where's your heart when an unwanted child is abused ? Where's your heart when a 12 year-old finds she's pregnant by DADDY or Uncle Fred and you think she should be punished for being raped by damaging her body and mind for life and giving DADDY a baby so he can proudly hand out cigars ??? A heart "soft" for a zygote but not much else ????doesn't make any sense at all
They already have the choice to either abstain or have protected sex. That choice is there already. That is the responsible choice. Instead you seem to promote "abortion for convenience". I'm glad you love kids....so do I. Question, If you and your wife become pregnant with a child you feel you can't afford, will you abort it? Do you feel that is your right?? If so, I would contend the "culture" has helped to harden your heart. I think that perhaps you would reconsider. We are responsible to always make wise decisions. As long as we try to do that, we can always pull through financial hardships and there are those that will help us. Ending a life is not the answer. You are expecting in October, so you are well aware of that life that is in your wife. Have you any compassion for it? Do you realize others reduce it to merely a fetus or zygote? To them it is something to be cut to pieces by a third party for profit and convenience. I pray you have an uncomplicated birth and a healthy child along with the blessings that go with it. Please ask yourself, why do you hate abortion?? Others write on these forums all day long to excuse it...even promote the value they are free to do so. Is there something about it that pricks your conscious? Could it be because there is something in your spirit that tells you it is a human life and ending it is wrong?? What about those in care facilities that can't speak up for themselves? Should we give them a label and justiify ending there lives as well? I believe there is something within you that tells you live is precious and we, as a society, should hold it as sacred. Am I wrong?
Ask Renee if her finger has the organs to eventually survive apart from her body......if so, we would have fingers in "day care"! LOL
That's a non-starter. You can consent to having sex but choose not to have children. The empowerment of women in this case helps society in plenty of ways. First, it reduces poverty, second, it reduces those on the government dole, and third, if reduces self harm by women who would self abort. There are more benefits then I pose here. My wife and I are in a financial spot to afford 3 kids. Just not 12. So a 3rd would be unplanned, but we wouldn't abort it. If however we were much poorer, and not in stable housing, and we didn't have the means to care for a new kid, we may consider it. With very heavy hearts. As for the last line, that is strictly hyperbole and I won't address it beyond that; what you and the pro-life brigade do is usurp "life" and insist you're the only lot for it. Unlike you, I don't really care what other people think of the fetus in my wife's uterus. I think you're spewing more hyperbole and using emotions as a basis for your argument. "To them it's something to be cut to pieces" is rhetoric. No one here or anywhere that I know of is all "yes, let's chop zygotes to bits!" I think the vast, vast majority of people who are pro-choice are like me. Not like the rhetoric you spew. Why wouldn't I hate abortion? It's a medical procedure that is damaging to people socially and stigmatically. It also irrevocably ends any chance of "what if" when it comes to a fetus. What if that fetus became the nect US president, for example? There's nothing pretty or admirable about it beyond allowing the exercise of our rights to choose and self determine. Life is precious and sacred. That has absolutely nothing to do with abortion. Why does it have to be a zero sum game, and why do I have a "hard heart"? The sole reason is spewing rhetoric.
