Why isnt it fine for Trump and Putin to meet?

You worship Putin, I got it.

 

Anyone who denies that Saddam Hussein had WMDs is an anti-American PRO-HUSSEIN TRAITOR for undermining US Intel.

Anyone who denies that N. Vietnam attacked a US destroyer - even though it now admitted it never happened - is an anti-American pro-communist traitor for undermining US Intel.

Anyone who believes divers proved the Luisitania had enormous amounts of munitions as Germany claimed is an anti-American Hun lover traitor for undermining US Intel.

This is the NEW mantra of the Democratic Party and the MSM. Anyone who questions US intel warmongering is a treasonous traitor. It never changes and is the cause of nearly ever war we have been in - lies, deliberate lies and warmongering by the US intel community - which always brings them still more power, more money and makes them larger in size - so great no that the highest ranking Democrat, Chuck Schumer, admitted on elected official dare ever do anything but total submission to the intelligence community - whatever they want.

Am I the only one not seeing those in the FBI and US Intel community openly telling members of Congress to go to hell, to f..k themselves, and making it perfectly clear they see themselves as immune from the Constitution, laws and elected government?

 

I understand you worship federal law enforcement and the intelligence agencies demanding they have absolute totalitarian power including over you.

The concept that US Intel dictates who the elected President my have in any position is as anti-Democratic and unconstitutional as is possible.

If you can cite "security protocols" being in the US Constitution, cite it.

 

Not quite. Phase 1 is acting surprised when somebody tells you a fact that threatens your dogma. Denying it comes later. Don't burn phases. You'll have time later to deny reality to your heart's content. I know you can't wait. But first you need to understand what it is you're going to be calling a "lie" before denying it. You're not there yet.

 

Conservatives don't suffer from obama derangement. That conservatives suffer from obama derangement must be the new talking point for "progressives", the talking heads mentioned it last week and over the weekend.

Here is a good point-

When Obama was elected and throughout the Obama administration, despite its abuses and corruption, no conservative did this:



proggies went nuts, and continue to go nuts, just like the prog in the video.

 

For 8 years (and longer) the "progressives" claimed the USA was causing problems due to the USA meddling in other nations affairs.

Some progs even blamed 9/11 on the USA meddling.

Now with Trump in office, and Trump echoing the claim that the USA has been meddling, all the progs suddenly claim the USA is perfect.

The USA has been "nation building" and throwing its weight around for decades, overthrowing leaders and installing puppets, and the world is tired of it. Time to drop your old Cold War mentality and Trump hatred and join the real world.

 

There's nothing wrong with being friendly and good natured during a meeting with someone like Putin as long as you're aware of what's going on. The problem is when you think you're smarter than he is and he makes you into his puppet without your even knowing it. Perhaps you know you're his puppet because he has something over your head like financial or golden!

 

What in the world does that have to do with what I said in my post? Not a damn thing. I dealt directly with the topic you chose. Now you want to change the subject to something about progressives. What does that have to do with the topic you chose?

This is interesting. The very last person Trump fans want to talk about is Trump. Someone will write about Trump. In reply, Trump fans will begin discussing progressives, liberals, Democrats, Hillary Clinton, or RINO's.

Another Trump fan who blames the U.S. for Russian transgressions.

Another Russian sympathizer. Where are you from?

 

So how many millions does a baboon have? An ignorant one? How many millions have you made, not being a baboon? Oh, I think I will choose the other baboon you mentioned. I prefer the rich baboons, for they have enough sense to get rich, unlike the non rich baboons.

 

A more relevant question would be why did Dirty Donald and Vlad the Bad have a SECRET MEETING, where the U.S.congress and public have absolutely no clue as to what was discussed or decided??I wouldn't trust either of them as far as I could throw them.Dirty Donald has been extolling the virtues of Vlad the Bad since he first decided to run for office,he's like a one man fan club.

 

I refuted the basis of your argument. And clearly you have no counter argument.

 

Does he have any? Have you seen his tax returns? As far as we know Trump might have many millions, or he might be deep in the hole, and he needs Putin to bail him out. We have no indication of either scenario being more or less likely than the other.

 

If he was broke, MSM would be covering it 24/7 with great relish. You should know that.

And he would not be giving away his salary either. ha ha ha.

The need to dismiss every possible thing about this man, the accusations of putin's puppet is such a childish jejune kind of partisanship. The worst form. So over the top, that it has become an incredible joke a caricature of partisanship, and yet it is a real as it gets. Never seen such hysteria in my 76 years of watching the world. Madness. Insanity. I can think of of apt adjectives. ha ha

 

If we knew it for a fact, they would. We don't know it for a fact. So they don't. They take him at his word that he's a billionaire. But, objectively, we don't know either way.

If Trump were broke, with all the investments he's made, the salary of President of the United States would be just drop in the bucket.

It's easier to call it "childish" then to explain why the President has refused to protect us from a foreign dictator who attacked us.

"Why" is most definitely a legitimate question

And I had never seen such blind loyalty to a person outside of a religious cult or of absolute dictatorships. To the point where followers deny reality. They believe everything he says even though his lies has been exposed again and again. ..... They even go to the extreme of denying reality... New to me....

 

It wasn't the fact that they met that people had a problem with. It wasn't even that he was cordial. It was the boot-licking.

 

I imagine many of Don's supporters make the same erroneous assumption.

 

"Why isnt it fine for Trump and Putin to meet?"

Because they met.

If they don't meet, it would for them not to meet

 

It should be readily acknowledged Don is a highly skilled con man who has bilked people out of millions of dollars, with financing from Russians. Lets just not pretend his money was made from his legitimate business acumen.

The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-scandals/474726/

 

Rolls eyes... Dude, get the **** over yourself.

 

That's a good question...

For Obama.

What do you suggest that businessman/candidate Trump might have done?

 

Obama did what he needed to do.

Trump could have done many things. But one thing he shouldn't have done is give aid and comfort to our enemy.

But right there, while on the podium. With Putin by his side he could have told him: "We know you attacked our electoral system. We know you are even now attacking our electorla system. We know this because our intelligence agencies have proven it. You need to stop or you will receive severe sanctions. We will consider a cyber attack the same as a regular military attack and will retaliate" Then follow through with sanctions. And go out and work with our allies who have also been attacked to coordinate sanctions against Russia. And lead an extensive cyber-attack on Russia with those allies if they don't show definite signs of taking measures.

For starters....

In other words: act like a leader. Which is something he can't do, because he's not a real leader. But he could have at least not capitulated the way he did..

 

Trump puppets play the "HATE Card" better than the far left plays the "RACE card." The RW bawling about how Independents and Democrats criticize Trump for egregious behavior and incompetent leadership is pathetic. What is one supposed to do, stand by and watch Trump screw the pooch until the poor beast dies? Wise up, you've been had. Your knight in shining armor is just a creaking pile of rust painted with glitter to please the "base."

There is enough smoke surrounding the Trump/Putin love in to justify a six alarm fire. Nobody believes the two hour tête-à-tête behind closed doors is anything but suspiciously disgusting. I mean, were there any suspicious sounds emanating from their little hideaway? Any rational American spending two hours alone with Putin would require a loaded .45 and gas mask.

Why is it okay for other president to spend time with Putin - sans two hour private room - because we don't trust the Donald. You say you do? Really? Maybe you'd like to have the Donald take your wife or daughter out on a date. Not that? Okay, then how about 2 hours behind locked doors? Too much? How about 1 hour? 30 minutes? 10 minutes? 3 seconds? Come on Trumpers, give me a number.

Most Americans wouldn't let Trump near a burning building with a bucket of water. After most Americans saw what happened in North Korea, the G-6 summit, NATO, and the recent Russia incident. They would prefer hot coals in their eyes to a repeat performance. I have long stopped caring when Trump embarrasses himself. Just don't do it to me.

 

The problem is you aren’t adept enough to see the whole picture. Let me break down the optics that the main stream media didn’t show you, and obviously you didn’t see on your own.

First, trump called out Germany with their quest to put in a natural gas pipeline into Russia while we pay the bulk of the defense to protect Germany from Russia. This is bad news for putin. Putin needs this for his economy. Putin does not want trump to make a spectacle of this on the world stage.

Second, trump talked Nato into coughing up $33BN into the coffers. Putin can’t afford to match that and is also more bad news for him. Putin can not afford an arms race.

Third, Trump making a spectacle of the queen, and showing the world that she is nothing more than a sweet old lady, not worthy of a curtsy or any other silly royal gesture, and shook her hand like a regular human that she is showed putin that trump Isn’t beholden to anyone but the American people.

Trump has motioned to withdraw from Syria and allow putin to build even another pipeline.which his economy needs. Putin definitely does not trump making a mess out of this.

I would say trump played the whole world stage on a masterful level. He showed put what he is capable of if need be. And just recently threw down the gauntlet on Iran.

Out of that we know we got putin to participate in the mueller investigation and even hinting at extradition of the accused, all the while calling out some dirty Americans. And that is only what was said to the reporters.

But don’t let me distract you from your locally broadcasted trump hate. Go with it but you are over your head and not in the game. You are a checker player trying to watch a chess match.

 

"Obama did what he needed to do."

Hmm... You know, I think you might be right. Obama very well could have been in on it.

"one thing he shouldn't have done is give aid and comfort to our enemy."

Haaahahahahaaa!

Let's live in the real world, shall we?

"But right there, while on the podium. With Putin by his side he could have told him: ..."

Why?

 

And that changes what I said in my posting how? Also, if trump is so masterful why did it go over the heads of the democrats and REPUBLICANS in the Capital? You would understand a lot more if you stopped drinking Kool-Aid.