Virginia-Based Imam Sulaiman Jalloh: Allah Willing, America Will Be a Muslim Nation

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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    So it's obvious you don't remember them
    That was answered several times, by several people, on this thread.

    I also asked you to give your definition, which you did not do.

    and BTW, for a quick answer,
    Try an English dictionary.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given that most world terrorism is being commited by Muslims addressing Islam, and its effect on Moohammed's followers, makes perfect sense.

    In fact Islam is the only religion, despite its attachment to ignorance and indifference to human rights and freedoms, that gets a solid defense whenever it's penchant for terrorism is being discussed. The conversation is inevitably directed toward other religions, usually Christianity, or its justified by Jews being in the Middle East,

    What should the civilized world do about Islamic aggression and terrorism?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Few Christians carry out terrorism after reading any book in the OT. If you have their names please share them.

    Who do you believe was a better messenger from God? Jesus or Mohammed? Which messenger would you prefer to follow?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It might be time to discuss Islamic terrorism in the contemporary world and not events fom many centuries ago. The past cannot be changed but perhaps the future can.

    Comparing Islam today with the Spanish Inquisition centuries ago may be appropriate on some levels but not of any help in solving our present problems with this religion.
     
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    That depends upon the person delivering the message.

    For example, do you think that Oliver Cromwell was a more peaceful person than Malala Yousafzai?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One question at a time, please, and try to stay on topic..
     
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    you didnt source a thing
     
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    I'm not asking for an opinionated reply. I'm asking for a source to back it up.
    You know... prove your point.
     
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    absolutely not, however Billy Graham was more peaceful than Osama Bin ladin.

    See how unrealistic that line of questioning is.

    And falls in line with, when stumped, change the topic.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    If you are just going to be childish, I am really not interested.
     
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    I hardly changed the subject. .

    I think your own post proved my point.
     
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    A while back I listened to a speaker who was raised a devout Muslim. His father was a doctor in Egypt and a key figure in the Muslim Brotherhood. While he was growing he learned all he could about Islam. He read all their teachings and listened to their scholars. However, he was troubled. Whenever he asked a question he was told it was not right to question Islam. Believers must accept all the teachings on faith. As he grew older, he went to Britain to attend medical school. While he was there, he learned that women were not second class citizens. He learned that having a pint with some friends is not evil. He learned that most Christians were not his enemy. This caused him to totally rethink his beliefs. When he returned to Egypt, he no longer accepted Islam without question. This upset his father. So much so that his father and an uncle tried to murder him by burning him to death. He escaped and fled to the US and changed his name. His father now has a contract on his life.

    To me this story highlights the difference between Islam and other religions. A great many Muslims place religion above all else, even family.
     
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    There is a website...Faithfreedom.org, that is all x-muslims with many similar stories.
    Many are living with death sentences on them, including the site owner, Al Sina.
     
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    Your argument is that one is both causing problems and is worse than the other.

    Both are wrong.
     
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    Was it in the 1600s that some bigoted Natives of America sat around complaining that some whites came to America? Told the rest of the tribe, we must take action. Before you know it, the whites will be all over America.

    The squaws laughed and said white men must marry them.

    The bucks laughed and said there is no way for those small ships to bring many whites here.

    Stop worrying. Some elders now relate this story to those who see no harm from Muslims arriving in this country.
     
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    No, what you are proposing is a logical fallacy.

    The fact that the majority in the locations where terrorism is occurring happen to be Islamic does NOT mean there is a causative relationship.

    EVERYONE there is Islamic. Those fighting terrorism are Islamic.

    And, EVERYONE there make up a small fraction of the world population of Muslims.


    Let's not get this wrong, because we need to know the real issues or any attempts by us to contribute to a solution are bound to fail
     
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    It seems you are carefully avoiding the real issue.
     
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    Backwards.... Democrats and their traveling companions constantly get this backwards.

    There was no move to keep religion separate. There was a move for Government to be free for all.

    What would the constitution look like had the native tribes written it?

    Government of the founders so welcomed religion that official government buildings were used for church services.

    I believe back then the Muslims were warned to stay away.
     
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    I'm ok with that.

    I fully agree that we need to be looking at modern causes of modern unrest.
     
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    You are looking at everywhere except where the problem exists.
    Is there a reason for that.

    If you are really curious,
    why don't you learn about the religion.
     
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    Fine and dandy but tell us why the muslims friday prayers call to kill the infidels?

     
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    I prefer to listen to the former Muslims. If they tell you how it is, about time to listen. Listen to such as Nonie Darwish. She grew up as a Muslim and as a girl despised the Jews.

     
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    The real issue is what is causing the unrest.

    What's so wrong in Saudi Arabia that OBL went on the offensive?
    What's so wrong in Palestine that citizens of Gaza and West Bank are upset?
    What happened in Syria?
    What happened in Iraq that resulted in the advent of ISIS? (And, what will it take for Muslims to end ISIS?)
    What's going on in Afghanistan and why?

    These are the real issues concerning the ME.
     
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    Faithfreedom.org. is by former muslims.
    You might find it interesting.
     
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    I'm not interested in watching movies.

    Please cite the written word.
     

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