Protesters topple Silent Sam Confederate statue at UNC

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  1. Questerr

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    Or the customs agents that the Sons of Liberty tortured and tried to murder.
     
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    No, Cuomo sucks. America was and still is great. It was and still is flawed. Both can be true at the same time.
     
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    Except each of them has writing directly opposed to white supremacy.
     
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    Which is the same mentality you're supporting. lol
     
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    So yes, you would have supported the British over the Americans during the Revolution.

    Does your Command know you hold these treasonous views?
     
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    "Treasonous views" LOL.

    Yea they are on top of that
     
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    The Sons of Liberty formed the core of the Minutemen and were instrumental to the opening stages of the Revolution.

    You would rather they had been in prison.
     
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    True, and yet he was still a great American.
     
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    I don't know why you're still debating with yourself. You're pro-mob rule.
     
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    Well, if you take the time to study and understand what he was saying, I think you would find that you and he would fundamentally agree. He was speaking about our national flaws and used an examination of the MAGA slogan to make the point in an impressive way.
     
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    And you are a worshipper of “legal” without comprehending that “legal” doesn’t mean “right” and “illegal” doesn’t mean “wrong”.
     
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    USA= "We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and are endowed by Their Creator with certain inalienable rights, being Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness".

    CSA= "its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth"
     
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    Did any of them advocate for giving voting rights to non-whites or women? Interracial marriages? If so, I'd love to see it.

    I happen to know for a fact that not only was Ben Franklin racist towards blacks, he was also racist towards other whites.

    A history of American anti-immigrant bias, starting with Benjamin Franklin’s hatred of the Germans

    I'm half German, and yet I still admire the hell out of Franklin.
     
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    I'm worshiping the peaceful removal of a statue by the people who manage it. You're pro mob rule.

    I don't know what country you're from but mob rule is not the way to get what you want. It only leads to more, and more. Soon, your mob buddies will be burning down houses that are painted white because the color offends them.
     
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    And yet their ACTIONS were the same.
     
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    Holy crap.

    This is the most ironic post ever.

    You realize the north's justification for its invasion and occupation of the south was purely legal, right?
     
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    They have no idea what they're arguing at this point
     
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    Ah, so you are conflating advocating for oligarchy with being a white supremacist.
     
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    Just like how the Sons of Liberty eventually turned into a crusade to murder everyone who even spoke English, right?
     
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    The South’s secession was both illegal and wrong.
     
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    Your "They did it so I can do it" argument is nothing short of childish. Just say what you are! Pro mob rule
     
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    If he said America was never really great, then I would fundamentally disagree with him.

    I think the American revolution is one of the greatest and most glorious achievements in human history. I am in awe of the people who organized and won it. But they were also flawed. That's reality. It's messy.
     
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    And in the eyes of the northern political class, there was no distinction between the two. Hence the irony.
     
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    I am pro-the people fighting against unjust and wrong things regardless of if they are “legal”.
     
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    Even when there's an easier solution? You know that many statues have been taken down by the government recently.
     

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