Judicial Watch: Justice Department Discloses No FISA Court Hearings Held on Carter Page Warrants

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  1. ronv

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    But, but, FAUX News -- and a Trump tweet... OMG that deep stater John Roberts packed the FISA courts. I guess you can make this stuff up.:)
     
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    No Cohen admitted to the felonies for which the warrants were granted by the SDNY
     
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    It should be easy to get a warrant on a guy who was already recruited by Russian intelligence once before, yet still spent all his time cozying up to Russia lol

    Besides, he didn’t even work for the campaign.
     
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    So, again, this is not true. You Trumpsters have to obsess with this false narrative or your whole house of cards collapses.
     
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    Don't confuse them with the obvious. It really complicates their already convoluded conspiracy theory.
     
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    Lies aren't conspiracy theories. They said A was happening, turns out B happened. That's what we call a lie.
     
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    Yeah man, I can see it, the Roberts Commission. Should be more pragmatic and faser than the Warren Comission.
     
  9. AmericanNationalist

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    But this warrant wasn't like all of the others(or maybe they were, and that's a BIGGER problem. If the FBI can use any flimsy justification to violate the 4th Amendment of any US Citizen, then yeah, good bye Republic.)
     
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    Sureeeeeeee...................................

    You've been carrying water for your Furher since before the election.

    Ranting regularly in defense of his behavior and heavily promoting the convoluded conspiracy theory that the noise machine has erected, while pointedly ignoring all of the evidence that points to conspiracy to collude.
     
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    What? I was talking about the fact that efforts by the Russians to work with and recruit Carter Page were well known before Trump told the Washinngton Post taht Page was a "senior foreign policy advisior".

    That would have been enough, in itself.

    What you Trumpsters never seem to be able to explain (and I've asked many, many times now), is why you are so obsessed with protecting Carter Page.
     
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    The OP is based on a breathtaking ignorance of the FISA process. Or a lie. It's repeated throughout the thread.
     
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    So the FISA court truly is a rubber stamp masquerading as a court of law? Quite an admission.
    But since the court grants warrants 99.97% of the time your admission is really taken for granted anyway.
     
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    Wouldn't a better question be "what percent of FISA apps are rejected?"

    I don't know the exact number, but it is very small, I think less than 1%

    FISA is just one more rubber stamp formality for the government.
     
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    0.03% is less than 1%. That's the percentage of petitions to the FISA court that are mysteriously turned away.
     
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    Perhaps the FBI just does its usual thorough job of documenting its FISA requests.
     
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    So much evidence that Rosenstein has yet to indict a single American with the one charge that would silence everyone: Conspiracy to Intent. That is the 'crime' in which collusion would follow under.

    All he'd have to do, to give himself even a veener of credibility at this juncture is to charge at least ONE American with conspiracy to intent(note: It's entirely different from the charges against Manafort. That's exclusively bank fraud charges. Conspiracy to Intent is that stature that deals with those backroom dealings and the likes.)

    And no, Trump's not my 'fuhrer'. He's our PRESIDENT. Who gets spit on more than any President in our lifetime, including more than Barack Obama. By leaps and bounds.

    I mean for god sakes, Jeff Flake blames Trump for the actions of the likes of Putin, Maduro, etc. Even though they'd been killing journalists and dissidents long before he was the Republican Nominee, let alone POTUS.

    When a politician can legitimately say something as stupid as he what he said, you know none of this is based on politics. It never was. It's pure hatred for Donald J. Trump. And by god it's sad and humiliating to look at.

    "We think Trump's a manchild, so we're going to act every bit the manchild too!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    He oversees and should be a realitvely simple matter to look at.
     
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    The Fourth Amendment means something. Because what we learned(from court documents, not right wing sources.) should absolutely terrify you(but it doesn't, because you don't think it'd work against you. Which is silly, considering this thing was created by Republicans, updated by Republicans(Bush) and protected by neocons,.

    It's absolutely fascinating. You launched war on this program, gave up when it was going nowhere and now that the abuse that you proclaimed is FINALLY documented, you support it.

    Seriously Liberals, WTF? While there were efforts by the Russians to work with and recruit Carter Page, Carter Page was also used as a double agent by the FBI. That fundamental fact alone, discredits the application. So in less than 6 months, he goes from an informant to a criminal spy helping out Trump?

    Oh wait, said criminal spy never committed the crime, and the transaction obviously never took place? That's alright, carry on they said.

    It's infuriating. In a regular court, a judge would hold them in contempt. But this isn't a regular court, and many Americans are perfectly fine with this revelation of violating the fourth Amendment. Meanwhile, I'm a fuhrer supporter apparently.
     
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    So again the truth and you can't refute it.
     
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    Wasn't recruited and work with the FBI and if it were so easy then why the fake dossier and the fake stories about Cohen and Prague?
     
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    The Supreme Court doesn’t “investigate” matters. It hears appeals about actual justiciable controversies.
     
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    Or perhaps the FISA just took everything the FBI told it at face value (which is what the Judicial Watch document discovery shows)
    without question, interest or any concern for due diligence.
    Considering FISA's record of rubber stamping warrants that seems the much more likely conclusion.
     
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    Should approve 100% of the time for anyone recruited by Russian spies who don’t learn their lesson
     
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    If you know what’s expected before you apply, you’d have to be a moron to get rejected.
     

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