'I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration'

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  1. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no it is what the NY Times says it is
    it is a “senior administration officials” keyword Senior there for been there longer than two years so an Obama holdover
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    was independent of the Trump campaign
    no ties
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and an Obama holdover because he is described as a “senior administration officials” keyword Senior there for been there longer than two years
     
  4. Bisquit

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    Which Senior administration officials are holdovers? Name them. I thought Trump chose all his own senior administration officials.
     
  5. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no he chose the heads of the departments and agencies most others under the heads are holdovers and again because he was described as a Senior administration official he has been there awhile longer than two years
     
  6. Bisquit

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    Those under the heads aren't senior officials, and wouldn't have access to all that was said in the article.
     
  7. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not less than a week ago you liberals where mocking the talk about deep state actors trying to undermine the president
    and here you have it proof of just that
     
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    Shouldn't be impossible to get a list of the Obama holdovers. You know this "resistance" is the very definition of sedition, right?
     
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    Not that any of this is the subject at hand, nor is most of it even true.
    • DOW at record highs.
    Conntinuing a largely consistant trend begun nine years ago.
    • NASDAQ first time over 8,000
    Same
    • Conservative judges.
    Well, yes. He has done the Federalist Society's bidding.
    • Slashed regulations.
    A whole lot less than you think, actually.
    • Tax cuts.
    Which go away in 2024 for you, but not for Wall Street. And we get a new record deficit next year to go with it!
    • Deportation of criminal illegal aliens.
    Actually, that number has dropped.
    • Mexico renegotiated NAFTA.
    They haven't yet, and neither has the United States.
    • Wages are up.
    Actually, real wages for the bottom 80% are up, but not by much, and inflation is eating most of that.
    • GDP over 4%
    For one quarter. That happened in 2015 too.
    • Unemployment under 4%
    The same nine year trends.

    So, beyond giving himself credit for an economy that Trump inherited, you've got nothing........
     
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    I know! Exactly! Everything they've laughingly disregarded as right wing paranoia is turning out to be real.

    How will history books treat this attempt to circumvent the Constitution?
     
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    An administration official who has been there since day one would certainly be considered a "Senior administration official".

    Your spin is pathetically obvious.
     
  12. Bisquit

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    I have mocked people who believed in the DEEP STATE, and never saw even the slightest bit of evidence of it's existence until now. The delicious irony is that the DEEP STATE is all republicans. HaHaHAHAHaHaHa
     
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    Exactly. There is noting in it for them to do that.........and a lot more t o lose.

    The one thing that has become apparent since trump took office.......and keeps badgering the media........ the responsible media are double checking their work. and then some. They KNOW w hat is at stake. They are dealing with an UNSTABLE POTUS and cannot afford to make any mistakes. Just as Woodwards book is spot on. ( folks might not like it........ but the evidence is there for al to see and hear.......and READ via tweets.


    It is evident that Trump does not have the psychological and intellectual capacity for the job. THAT is what i all boils down to. No amount of rationalisation or justifying his behaviour can refute that. Grade school psychology is all one needs to see the dysfunctional It is hard to admit that folks have voted for someone with psychological issues and lacking the maturity and disposition for the job.

    There should DEFINITELY be PSYCHOLOGICAL testing of anyone running for this job. the job is demanding, and requires a a lot more than money to handle it. Most HIGH stress jobs require pscyh testing.........

    This might be the take away from this mess.
     
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    History books will document how the REPUBLICAN DEEP STATE fought valiantly to stop Trump's stupider actions.
     
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    No, because no one is plotting to overthrow the government. The Constitution will be followed.
     
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    'Going down the crapper'? Hyperbole much given the recent unemployment/economic gains in the US. And while yes, there are challenges to make sure it doesn't recede, there's also the opportunity for further gains. I imagine consumer confidence and US confidence as a whole would go up a bunch if we rallied around Donald Trump. Unfortunately, that's never going to happen since the Liberals have a personal vendetta, the neo-conservatives have a personal vendetta and now we see people in his administration, have a personal vendetta.

    To be sure, Trump has his own fault to play in this too: He mistakenly thought that if he gave neo-cons a substantial position within his cabinet, they would serve the United States. But since when has a neo-con ever served this nation? Their new American century gave us the Iraq war and they see the nation as a personal piggy bank for oligarchy.

    I would not be stunned if the latest dissenter is a neo-con.

    As for why this dissent is unacceptable, the content of the article illustrates. It's not that what Trump is doing is unconstitutional or even illegal, but it would be perceived as harmful. Roosevelt's New Deal(and subsequent renewals) were seen as harmful, no one stopped him. Anyone from a mile away could've predicted the Libyan Outcome, but no one stopped Obama.

    If we accept the argument that an insubordinate can override the POTUS because his actions would be seen as 'harmful' then that would yes, be a puppet President. And it does go beyond Trump. A spiteful Trump Republican might be asked to appoint a post in say a Warren cabinet(fantasize with me for a second). Said Trump Republican would gladly use the same justification to undermine a Warren Presidency.

    Unpatriotic? Hell yeah. Without precedent? Thanks to this NYT report, nope.
     
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    I’m all for firing everyone in the White House............everyone.
     
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    Scotch and cigars at my place if that happens.
     
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    Here is the problem. The 25th amendment is useless because there is no mechanism by which anyone can force the President to undergo a physical, mental or psychiatric examination, nor is there a mechanism that orders who does or does not gain access to any results of an examination results. Without both, there is no way to sustain any evidentiary burden for this 'disability'

    The impeachment clause according to many, is useless without a finding of serious criminal culpability. Being looney tunes, or a complete moron, or refusing to do any work are not crimes. Then we need to find the votes in the Senate.

    None of this is going to happen.


    That leaves the White House staff winging it from one day to the next, just trying to keep the ship of state afloat and the captain's hands off the wheel and away from the sails, and hoping that no stormy seas show up. The 'resistance' are doing the best that they can, in impossible circumstances. If they all up and quit, or sign their names, then nobody will be there, to keep Captain Queeg from sending ship to the bottom of the ocean.
     
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    I would not be surprised if the author was a neo con either. There are two or three of the old PNAC crowd in the Trump orbit, most notably John Bolton. And Condi Rice did give character testimony in the Kavanaugh hearings yesterday.
     
  22. AtsamattaU

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    Seriously how was America dumb enough to elect this nimrod???
     
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    Lol this is one of Trump’s own appointees. It’s probably Jeff Sessions! Ain’t payback a bitch?
     
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    Conspiracy to undermine the government is an ambrosia too hard to resist?

    Look forward to the trials.
     
  25. AtsamattaU

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    This is a good theory. However it’s much more fun to speculate that it’s Jeff Sessions.
     
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