The Necessity of Abortion

Out of how many acts of intercourse? We are talking about a tiny minority of sex acts resulting in pregnancy. There is no reasonable expectation that having sex means consenting to pregnancy unless pregnancy was the specific reason for having sex.

 

Irrelevant.

If someone is on birth control, the point is to not get pregnant at all.

When 50% of the people getting abortions don't use birth control, and 20% are "withdrawing" as a form of birth control for the other 50%, clearly the problems in your math continue.

If you use a method that has a 1% failure rate, you can bonk as much as you want and the number of abortions would be in the thousands, not the hundreds of thousands.

 

On that we agree.

 

No birth control is 100% effective. Please quote which birth control company posts that it’s goal is to prevent all pregnancies.

There’s 18 BILLION acts of intercourse or more per year in America.

8 million pregnancies (650k abortions plus the 6 million other pregnancies you quoted earlier) still means that pregnancy only has a 0.0004% chance of happening from any single act of intercourse, birth control or no.

 

Again with the argument that no one presented.

Let me break this down for you again.

50% or more of people don't use birth control AT ALL.

50% or less of people use birth control, but almost HALF of that is "withdrawal".

Now tell me again what would happen if people started being responsible and using birth control with a 97-99% success rate.

Go ahead.

 

It doesn’t matter if they are using birth control or not because the chances of getting pregnant from any single act of intercourse are tiny.

It is not reasonable to say a woman consents to getting pregnant simply for having sex unless sex was specifically for the purpose of getting pregnant.

 

The undeniable fact is that 99+% of the women knowingly took a chance of getting pregnant. It was their choice.

 

And that chance was minuscule.

We get back to “Are you consenting to be hit by a drunk driver ever time you get in your car because you know there is a small chance it could happen and you choose to drive anyway?”

 

No, because being hit by a drunk driver requires someone else to break the law.

The fact remains that excepting rape, nobody forces a woman to get pregnant. That is irrefutable.

 

It is unreasonable to say a woman knowingly engaging in sex is not voluntarily choosing to risk pregnancy.

 

In the same way, you getting in your care is voluntarily choosing to risk getting hit by a drunk driver, therefore we must assume you are consenting to being hit by a drunk driver, yes?

 

Unless a woman is specifically trying to get pregnant, then she is always being forced to get pregnant.

 

My eyes just rolled out of my head.

You forgot "sex is always rape".

 

Clearly it's not when 10% is getting knocked up per year while 50% are using some form of birth control.

 

That makes no sense.

If she's not being forced, she's not being forced.

You're putting a lot of effort into not understanding.

 

No.

Sex is the natural God designed method of procreation. It requires no acts of stupidity.

Do you have anything new or rational to add?

 

So will you then admit that if she was specifically trying to get pregnant, it would be irresponsible of her to later abort, assuming it was a perfectly normal pregnancy?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Please show the law and/or mandate that makes birth control mandatory.


BTW, consent to one act (sex) is not consent to any other act (becoming pregnant).

Just as consent to one act( inviting someone into your home) is not consent to any other act(them stealing all your belongings)

"""Please show the law and/or mandate that makes birth control mandatory."""


You couldn't.


NO, consent to one act is not consent to any other act....

If you consent to somone entering your house is that consent to steal all your things ? No, it's not..



Yes, , having a child and consenting to feed it ARE two different things...

 

Oh for pete's sake, here it is.

Why? The procedure and outcome of an abortion due to rape are EXACTLY the same as an abortion due to consensual sex.

So the fetus due to rape isn't "precious life" ?

Thank you for reaffirming that Anti-Choicers want to punish women for having consensual sex.

It appears you do. Forcing women to gestate, as slaves were, is a form of slavery and involuntary servitude.

NO one is obligated to use birth control.

So you think becoming pregnant is punishable by having your 2nd Amendment rights taken away?

 

N(O, she simply changed her mind, a right women still have

 

EVERY pregnancy harms every woman physically, both temporarily and permanently, and there is always the risk of DEATH.

The harm caused is substantial enough to warrant self defense measures IF the fetus were to be deemed a "person".

 

This was answered already

 

Every Cheeseburger has unhealthy attributes, but you can't shoot Ronald McDonald.

You're becoming like the neighbors kids. Fun to play with at first, but you get tired of them after a while.

You can keep harping the same rediculous line over and over again, but it's not getting any smarter.

 

Did you even look at this post?: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...lin-kaepernick.540973/page-64#post-1069584401