The Necessity of Abortion

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  1. MAGA

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    This thread isn't about a woman's right to her own body, and the post I was replying to had nothing to do with a woman's right to her own body.

    Perhaps you are thinking of something else.
     
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    Every thread in the abortion Forum IS about women's right to their own body.

    Every discussion on abortion is about women's right to their own body.

    That is what the abortion issue is all about..

    What WAS your point in this statement?: """Abstenence is 100% effective for everyone except the Virgin Mary."""
     
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    1. A child is not a part of her/his mother's body, hence, you are either mistaken or being purposefully dishonest.
    2. The point of my statement is self-evident if you understand the words in my statement and the statement I was replying to. Is there a specific part of either or both of them that I can help you with?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Every thread in the abortion Forum IS about women's right to their own body.

    Every discussion on abortion is about women's right to their own body.

    That is what the abortion issue is all about..

    What WAS your point in this statement?: """Abstenence is 100% effective for everyone except the Virgin Mary."""




    No, but a fetus is....if you think it's not then prove it by having a fetus removed from the woman it's in and setting it on a shelf and see if it grows by itself...






    EXCEPT I NEVER said a child was part of a woman's body.


    Questerr said:
    Birth control is 100% effective?"""""




    MAGA:"" Abstenence is 100% effective for everyone except the Virgin Mary. ""

    MAGA, Today at 4:19 PM Report



    So what did that mean?....you just stated the obvious....and there is no connection between abstinence ( spelled correctly) and women's rights and abortion...
     
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    1. A child at every stage of their development is a unique human being. This is a clinically proven medical fact.

    2. All human beings need nourishment and air to grow and live. Unborn children are no different.

    3. If you had bothered to read my post carefully you would have seen that I replied to a post that said birth control was less than 100% effective. I noted that abstinence (spelled correctly-thanks) was in fact a 100% effective birth control for everyone except The Virgin Mary.

    Can I make it any easier for you to understand?
     
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    Do you ever look at your posts before you send them?
     
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    What other form of medicine results in the death of something natural, other than abortion?
     
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    Correct.

    In your opinion.
     
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    Right, so then your "personal opinion" should also be that if abortion is illegal then MEN "shouldn't have to pay one damn cent to support the kids they were forced to have." Can I assume that you don't have a GROSS double standard and that this is in fact your opinion?

    I'm glad that you have given your opinion on child support, but I was also asking for your opinion on why you think that murder is wrong and also whether we have the right to life. You're clearly able to express your opinion well, so this shouldn't be a problem for you.

    Okay, but do WE have it?

    Yeah, that's why it is illegal, but why would you say that it is wrong?

    Do you honestly believe that ANY pro-lifer would say that it is perfectly okay if unborn lives are killed?

    Okay, so IF a fetus is deemed a person with rights AND allowed to use another's body to sustain it's life, you're saying that everyone else wouldn't have:

    The right to free speech?
    The right to bare arms?
    The right to exercise religion?
    The right to remain silent?
    The right to equal treatment under the law?


    Of course it is THEIR body. My point is that when they are pregnant, there is another body inside their body! So how can it 100% BE ALL ABOUT THEIR body? It is about TWO bodies!

    Then how can you say that because no living person can use another persons body without their consent, this means that neither can a fetus?
     
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    So what? That has nothing to do with women's right to their own body....?

    It has nothing to do with whether a fetus came about because of rape or consensual sex...




    So what? What has that got to do with women's right to their own body...?.

    It has nothing to do with whether a fetus came about because of rape or consensual sex.




    So what? What has that got to do with women's right to their own body....?

    It has nothing to do with whether a fetus came about because of rape or consensual sex.


    Can I make it any easier for you to understand?
     
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    Let me know if you have a serious question.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No, I ask follow up questions to your statements that you have a hard time answering:)


    You said "no" when I asked if a raped woman should be forced to have her rapist's kid.

    BUT you have said you are against abortion...is that not correct?


    IF you are against abortion then why make an exception for the pregnancy due to rape?


    Here's another simple straightforward question:

    Why are you against abortion?



    And, do you realize how silly this statement is?

    """I'm not got to they to decipher your post into English."""

    Who's complaining about English?? ;)




    If you have nothing to say why say it?

    If you can't answer even a simple question like "Why are you against abortion? "" without blaming me for your failure to do so, then why not say nothing....if you have nothing


    Obviously YOU didn't look at your post when you criticized my English when you posted """"I'm not got to they to decipher your post into English."""

    ...maybe you should just answer or address posts without trying to distract with weak attempts at insults...
     
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    If there is a rational question in that mess post it.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    So you think that some how , in some mysterious way, a fetus caused by rape is in some way "not quite as "good" ? As "pure" ? As "precious" as another fetus?



    You're kidding, right...… do you really think a fetus is "bad" because it was caused by rape???? OMG...do you know what century this is...


    Can you show proof that a fetus caused by rape is different from a fetus caused by consensual sex?

    What is the difference?

    Is it like a space alien with green blood or something?? Or do they have a tattoo on their forehead saying "my dad's a rapist" ?





    No, it's true I state the obvious, that abortion in the case of rape is exactly the same as abortion caused by consensual sex


    IS THAT NOT TRUE ? YES THAT IS TRUE.




    ………... to prove that Anti-Choicers (who make exceptions for rape) only want to punish women for having consensual sex or they would NOT make exceptions...


    It is all true and it forms a logical conclusion that you could NOT disprove..
     
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    Sad when a poster can't address another posts so has to use silly little insults to wriggle out of addressing them (or proving their point they don't have ...:))

    You don't think I'm not used to Anti's not having any answers??? :) No, I'm quite used to it.....:)

    (….another one bites the dust....)



    Excuse No. 1 to avoid answering when one has nothing to answer with:.
    """Let me know if you have a serious question."""


    Excuse No. 2 to avoid answering when one has nothing to answer with:

    """If there is a rational question in that mess post it.""

    Excuse No. 3 """ I'm not going to wade through a steaming mess of words searching for a question.""




    Can't answer a simple question like why are you against abortion?.....wow, just wow....and you're in an abortion forum...good grief..
     
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    Literally every single parasite treatment.
     
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    Questerr said:
    Literally every single parasite treatment.



    I'll keep this simple: HOW does that simple scientific fact show contempt for human rights ?
     
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    Facts don't show contempt, which is why I never said it did.

    You don't understand how to debate, do you?
     
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    OMG....here's what was posted:

    A. Questerr said:
    Literally every single parasite treatment."""""



    B. YOU quoted his post and replied: """And that" (""Literally every single parasite treatment.""""") .."" explains the left's contempt for human rights.""""


    C. I then asked : HOW does that simple scientific fact show contempt for human rights ?


    If you know facts don't show contempt then why did you reply with """And that explains the left's contempt for human rights.""" ?


    Excuse No. 5 ""You don't understand how to debate, do you? ""


    I understand that when someone can't defend their position they start making excuses.
     
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    Is my answer inaccurate?
     
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    I assume you mean your quote comparing children to parasites?

    My child was never a parasite. It sucks for those that believe they had the opposite experience.

    Does your parasite comparison continue to old people in nursing homes?
     
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    Where did I compare children to parasites? Provide a direct quote.
     
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    Apparently it was someone else..

    My mistake... I apologize...

    When you said "Is my answer accurate", what answer were you referring to?
     
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    The answer I gave in my post to a question regarding medical fact.
     
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