Another lying snake comes out from under her rock

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Sep 16, 2018.

  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't take the anecdotes too far. The shady stuff is often secretive in my experience, like a friend of mine who woke up after blacking out with her underwear backwards - she didn't know what happened for sure, but could guess what and who and really didn't want anybody to make anything of it either. The gossip didn't spread because the guy probably wasn't proud of fondling or worse an unconscious girl (all I know for sure is none of the guys said anything), and my friend told us not to talk about it with others. Ford alleges that she saw Judge later and that he was uncomfortable to see her. It is certainly possible that he knew he acted like an idiot and it was because he was drunk.
     
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    Yeah, that must be it. I mean it's either a huge conspiracy by the Democrats to "get" Kavanaugh by manufacturing witnesses and evidence or... he's just an ******* rapist.
     
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    I get your point

    In the court of public opinion the average brainless snowflake would not give your story any credence

    However Ford and the dems are counting on the lib media to win the day for them
     
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    Why did she black out? Was she drunk when she put her underwear on? Drunks have little credibility anyway. Don't get drunk....moral to story. Their was a time when lady's (especially high school age) didn't get drunk around young men.Your friend told you not to talk about it but I bet if George Soros offered you $10,000 you certainly would AND probably embellish a little.
    Kavenaugh has been vetted at least 6 times by the FBI. 60 women, many that knew him in High School have testified to his character. We know nothing of this Professor's character so why do we destroy his life by taking her word? Let her go through the integrity scrutiny he has gone through then we can talk.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Well at the very least the vetting he's had before suggests that even if it did happen, it wasn't something he habitually did even as a drunk high schooler (unless, of course, more people come forward with substantiated claims, which is what happened with other #MeToo cases). But we're not talking about destroying his life, just denying him a seat on SCOTUS. But sure, a compelling testimony from her should be required at a minimum for him to be denied it on these grounds.
     
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    When did she get it? Let’s not forget that Ford didn’t want it released and it wasn’t until it was leaked.
    If I was Ford, I wouldn’t testify because the Republicans are simply going through the motions before
    Using the nuclear option again. They will denigrate her at the hearing. Also her name is being dragged through the mud by the flock who don’t give a rat’s behind about the truth. Just be the flock of sheep and follow the con-man. And don’t ever think for yourselves.
     
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    Sounds that way, and apparently she has no axe to grind either except for the assault.
    She didn’t want the letter released and she doesn’t want to testify in front of a bunch of denigrating lawmen.
     
  8. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Latest news has Feinstein bailing out on Ford. She must have some inside news that indicates Ford is a lying snake. So in classic fashion Feinstein is distancing herself from Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Her lawyer is on the executive board of a soros-funded group affiliated with moveon.org.

    That's all one needs to know/hear.
     
  10. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The whole hatchet job has been botched by the democrats, and they look like the damned fools they are.

    Soros found an operative that would lie, but didnt properly vet her. She has so many red flags against her, I bet Soros is livid.
     
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    Since when has the left given a flip about the Truth?
     
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    The odds of a zygote creating a human are not that high. Sure it might create a living human in the future but the question is - what is it now ?
    Folks can argue many things but when it comes to law - making law - you need proof.

    The reality is that the single cell at conception will never be part of the living human that is in the process of being created. For me it is rather hard to claim that a living human exists when not a single human cell in the body of that human exists - never mind brain function.

    Feeling pain has been suggested as this requires "significant brain function" which can be measured. Prior to the wiring of the brain being completed there is no such ability. After this point the brain lights up like an xmas tree.

    There are good arguments that can be made at this point for personhood. In the early stages of pregnancy there are not.

    Regardless - in the early stages - the best place the anti aborts can get to is "experts disagree" = we don't know. This is not a sound basis for law. In fact making law on such a basis is a complete anathema to the principles of law and the founding principles.

    If a Judge can not figure this out - he/she should not be a Judge .. never mind be a part of SCOTUS.
     
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    That the attempt to found the nation was not aborted - has zero to do with whether or not making a law against abortion is within the legitimate authority of Gov't. That is the first time I have ever heard anyone make such an argument - it is both strange and horribly flawed.

    That abortion is not mentioned in the constitution - does not give the Gov't the authority to make a law against it. The on which this nation was founded - and which law an the constitution are to be interpreted are in the declaration of independence.

    Govt has no authority to make "ANY LAW" - of its own volition - that messes with individual liberty. FULL STOP.

    This is BY Definition - what a constitutional republic is.

    Now the people can give the Gov't consent to make some law messing with individual liberty. This however requires an overwhelming majority consent. That is the bar - not 50+1/ Simple Majority Mandate. At least 2/3rds must consent.

    Simple majority mandate (as per the above definition) is considered "Tyranny of the Majority" in both Classical Liberalism and Republicanism.

    You understanding of how the constitution functions - and the founding principles is flawed.
     
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    No proof is required. Somewhere during that nine months, there is a real human being. The only question is where that line should be drawn. I have heard everything from contraception should be illegal to it should be counted as life only after birth. There are valid arguments for any point you pick.
     
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    I suspect she will testify
     
  16. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As of this morning, she says she wont. In my book that screams that the whole thing is a huge lie.
     
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    Actually Injeun makes a quite valid point.that you and other pro-abortion inclined people ignore yet you address. You said: "Govt has no authority to make "ANY LAW" - of its own volition - that messes with individual liberty. FULL STOP. " Your declaration here addresses "individual liberty: yet denies that very "individual liberty" to the individual, when once conceived, to the right of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness......the right of every citizen endowed by our Creator. Your own definition subscribes a type of "Tyranny of the Majority" over the innocent and silent unborn, a minority that you would continue to deny those rights.
     
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    I am not from the left. I am a Republican and cannot support a person like Trump.
     
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    She wants the FBI to investigate before she testifies. Good idea
     
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    Just because you are GOP does not mean you are neither establishment or leftist. The late Juan McCain or Jeff Flake would be prime examples. I usually vote GOP but could never support the likes of them.
     
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    I suspect you are correct.

    As I had mentioned, both Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge (the "witness") could have been too drunk to remember.

    Judge, a right-wing journalist, in his memoir Wasted, has described the depravity at Georgetown ("What happens at Georgetown stays at Georgetown!" Kavanaugh declared.) and Judge has recounted his classmate "Bart O'Kavanaugh" getting so drunk that he passed out.

    The neo-nazis at Daily Stormer who hail Trump as their "Glorious Leader!" have an alternative approach to their fellow travelers who frenetically fling their dung at the accuser:
    Even if it happened, we shouldn't care? Sexual abusers need not even bother to heed Trump's reported advice: "You've got to deny, deny, deny and push back on these women. If you admit to anything and any culpability, then you're dead"?

    Sociopathic indifference to callously abusing a young woman is so morally repugnant it makes the knee-jerk denial appear reasonable.
     
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    Ford's lawyer, acting for her, has rejected the opportunity to testify on Monday - game over.
    Grassley should schedule the vote for Thursday.
     
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    Why we should care is a fair question. Were talking about something that happened 36 years ago in high school. He didnt murder anyone, he didnt rape anyone, he MIGHT have groped a girl. Personally I think anyone who is willing to condemn a man over something that happened 36 years ago in high school for anything short of murder is a sociopath themselves.

    That's besides the fact there is no evidence, at all, and its impossible to prove at this point short of a confession or ford admits she lied.
     
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    This is objectively incorrect. In a defamation action, the burden is on the plaintiff to prove falsity.
     
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    Kavanaugh has been vetted 6 times. He has sat on the DC Court. The Demos have smeared him twice now. Got their time in, privately and publicly. The Vote was set for Thursday. The Repubs have accommodated with the delay.

    Sotomayor was confirmed in 66 days. Shortest timespan ever. Kavanaugh already is over 80 somedays.

    Yes its about Power. Putting the SCOTUS back to full power. 9 Justices.
     

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