Trump greeted with laughter while touting his administration's accomplishments at UN

The UN advises, it has no other real power. It can put on sanctions, but sanctions are simply other nations refusing to do business, as is their sovereign right. If it sends in peacekeepers that's because the member nation has asked for them

The UN is mainly and majorly a place where where member nations meet and talk before going to war. They often go to war anyway, Sanctions can have little effect and Peacekeepers are soldiers in straitjackets. It can appear an ineffectual organization because it often is. It's functions are preventative and preventing catastrophes isn't nearly as exciting and interesting as the catastrophes themselves.

You're a warrior, you should know that war is hour upon hour of the most utter tedium interspersed with moments of sheer terror. Reporting on war uses only the moments, so war appears interesting. The UN deals with wars totality and thus is like its major reality. It's a boring institution basically. It does its work behind the scenes and its work is the essence of real work, it's boring as hell and its only virtue is how vitally necessary it is. It's also a literal hothouse for growing involved conspiracy theories in the brains of any benighted observers unlucky enough to have to study it closely


I can't find the meme where David Rockefeller is eating live mice It's pretty funny but I suppose it's good that I can't put it up. as you'd probably think it was real

 

I would rather be sent to the brig to wait to be court martialed than wearing a blue helmet.

I would refuse any order to wear the UN blue helmet.

The UN army (peacekeepers) are nothing more than pedophiles who pay 12 year old girls bananas for sex.

 

It ignores ALL those things because they are INTERNAL AFFAIRS of the nations and to intervene would thus violate those nations precious SOVEREIGNTY. This has been a big bugaboo of the UN going back to the 60's. It couldn't do anything about Frances's terrible atrocities in Algeria because France claimed Algeria was an Overseas Province and it's wholesale killing and torture of Algerian rebels thus an internal matter and beyond the UN's mandate. Same thing with Portugal in Angola and Mozambique. The deaths of nearly a million in Rwanda were IN RWANDA and the UN could thus do nothing until the Rwandans asked. There are other areas.

The United Nations IS largely a useless debating society and that is because people like yourself want it to be one. Rightly or wrongly you don't want a world government but then you complain constantly that the UN is NOT exactly that

 

Have we had another world war? No? Has there been enough international tension to create one?
Yes
Then I think it has succeeded

Since 1948, the UN has helped end conflicts and foster reconciliation by conducting successful peacekeeping operations in dozens of countries, including Cambodia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Mozambique, Namibia and Tajikistan.

UN peacekeeping has also made a real difference in other places with recently completed or on-going operations such as Sierra Leone, Burundi, Côte d’Ivoire, Timor-Leste, Liberia, Haiti and Kosovo. By providing basic security guarantees and responding to crises, these UN operations have supported political transitions and helped buttress fragile new state institutions. They have helped countries to close the chapter of conflict and open a path to normal development, even if major peacebuilding challenges remain.

In other instances, however, UN peacekeeping – and the response by the international community as a whole – have been challenged and found wanting, for instance in Somalia, Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia in the early 1990s. These setbacks provided important lessons for the international community when deciding how and when to deploy and support UN peacekeeping as a tool to restore and maintain international peace and security.
https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/our-successes

Yes well, it does not help when the very countries that are demanding that everyone adhere to human rights are breaching them themselves (cough cough America torture of war prisoners Guantanamo etc )

Meanwhile

https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/OHCHR20_Backup/Pages/Achievements.aspx

This is like someone screaming to get rid of all police as there is still crime

 

You prove my point. The UN is worthless and a scam. It has been from the day it was created.

 

Quoting the UN about its self-perceived successes is like asking a politician why he should be re-elected.

 

debt means a lot, the debt is at all time highs under Trump and no sign of going down

 

Nope, on CA.
I don't worry about the debt/deficit as you claim you do, which I don't think you do either.
We print our money. As long as $$ is strong and world's currency, we're OK, IMO. But, disaster should that change.
And there isn't anything I can do about that.

 

Touche~

 

Touche~2

 

The Treasury Department prints paper currency and mints coins, overseeing the Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP), and the U.S. Mint. When banks need cash, they request it from the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve electronically deposits it into the bank's account and charges the appropriate interest rate. When they have excess cash on hand, banks return it to the Federal Reserve, settling any accounts.

The US Government does not just "print money".

 

Which doesn't affect what I said. As long as that can happen and the $$ is the world's reserve currency, debt isn't a biggie.
Watch out when it's no longer the world's currency though. IMO.

 

Well, plan on it. As we reduce oil imports, that reduces "petrodollar recycling" that has preserved the U.S.' position as global currency.

The end of petrodollar recycling could result in a global shift away from the dollar as principal currency for trade, provided that there is a viable alternative.

 

Certainly could.
Are you worried about debt/deficit?
Most RWers claim they are, but then say nothing when their party increases both. In fact, they expand both.

 

It does sound like he was making a deliberately exaggerated claim as a joke.

The laughter came after someone said something which was not audible and he responded " so true ".

It seemed the sort of laughter from people who never expect any kind of joke and speeches are always serious.

Trump is NO DOUBT arrogant and narcissistic but I doubt even he could have been making that claim in a sincere manner.

 

As long as our nominal GDP, as a percentage, exceeds the federal deficit, as a percentage, we are growing our way out of it.

 

I agree with that. Which is why 3% gdp growth is desired.
The hidden tax on Americans. If wages don't growth at 3% also.

 

Nominal GDP has averaged 5.5% over the last year. That's well above our budget deficit.

The hidden tax is inflation, not GDP growth.

 

Quite, the banks do that. Government is just their agent.

 

Sad but true. He's embarrassing our nation even more than Obama did with his apology tour.

 

Where are you getting 5.5% annual GDP from?

 

Averaged nominal GDP for the last 4 quarters

 

Lol . . . You seriously believe GDP for Q2 2018 was over 7.5% . . . Really? There are people who believe that? Hilarious.

 

The Fed and the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis even believes it.

U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, Gross Domestic Product [A191RP1Q027SBEA], retrieved from FRED, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis; https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RP1Q027SBEA, September 26, 2018.

 

The link @Zorro provided is valid. Here's the problem for Democrats: If they want to claim Bill Clinton was responsible for the growth and wealth in the 1990s, then they have to accept Trump's numbers. OTOH, here is the problem for Republicans: If they want to claim Donald Trump is responsible for our present economy, they have to accept that Bill Clinton did the same.

As it is, I strongly disagreed, and I've said so many times in the past here, that any President is solely responsible for our nation's economy for many reasons.