Why I think Christine Ford is lying

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  1. Mac-7

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    What you just wrote is much more out of control than anything I’ve seen Ctrl write
     
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    So according to you the experts who say heavy combat can cause PTSD are talking nonsense, and veterans who apply for compensation for PTSD should be turned down without question?
     
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    I don't believe either one was lying. I just think they both had drunken memories of something that happened a long time ago.
     
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    You are far exceeding your poetic license even for a lib
     
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    Presuming that A: It happened or B: That they were drinking. Nah, this is definitely a clear case of handlers(she herself unwittingly even used those words). What a catastrophe to the country. What I once thought was on her, is an institutional virus inside of the Democratic Party.

    It has lost all morale, reason, logic, discipline and honor. And like Lindsey Graham said: I sure hope they never gain power until they regain those things.
     
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    Not here, this is why I see this whole charade as such an openly political ploy, the Democrats just set this up to try an motivate their base for the midterms.

    Before the week long confirmation hearing, we knew Kavanaugh would be confirmed in an entirely partisan vote 51-49. The Democrats made a mess of the confirmation hearings saying all sorts of outrageous things, they said this judge would cause the death of millions of women, was a misogynist and a racist, but we still knew he'd get the confirmation. Then Feinstein came up with this accusation she'd held back for a couple of months, they'd try to derail the judge with an investigation, reopen the hearings, delay things until they recovered the Senate and could reject the nomination. The witness needed time to prepare, feared flying, needed special arrangements to protect her... Democrats continued to seek delays, but the testimony on this uncorroborated and very vague scurrilous allegation went on and nobody seriously questioned what was claimed, we all knew this would pass and then we'd get the same partisan vote.

    Democrats will portray this as evidence Republicans are immoral, don't care about women, rally their MeToo clan, Republicans will note the vagarity of the claims, the lack of anything to corroborate them and the dirty politics in their disclosure and advocacy. Kavanaugh will be confirmed by the same partisan vote, maybe a Democrat or 2 will be so ashamed about how this party went after the judge they'll redeem themselves with a favorable vote.

    Supreme Court appointments are not supposed to be political events, it is a given a conservative president gets to appoint conservative judges and a liberal one will appoint liberal judges, usually they'll get confirmed with bipartisan support.
     
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    Compelling 1st hand victims accounts and polygraph results would be hard for a grand jury of her peers to ingnore wouldn't they? The prosecutor who interviewed Ford yesterday wasn't convinced, but the democratic jury sure was. With all of the anti-Kavanaugh forces in daily, if not hourly contact with the FBI, Kavanaugh's perjury hasn't come up? Chris Steele got an FBI counter intel operation and special counsel appointment with unverified allegation by unnamed sources and without congressional knowledge. Rosenstein helped him. Rosenstein's in charge of Kavanaugh's vetting. There ain't enough spin in the world to sell this one.
     
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    Disagreed, but then I also disagreed that it's okay to rape or sexually assault women who drink, even if passed out drunk,.
     
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    Agreed this is all political. It's not about truth, justice or the American way. It's just another step in the increasingly partisan divide pitting one half of America against the other half.

    Agreed SCOTUS appointments shouldn't be political events, but that ship sailed years ago. This one is different because of the accusations of sexual assault, but the partisan politics are the same. SSDD
     
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    Disagreed, but thinks for the name-calling.

    BTW, you might be interested in this: https://www.healthline.com/health-n...r-of-older-shut-ins-is-a-major-concern-053015
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    ....While homebound individuals have more chronic illness and disability than their non-homebound counterparts, the study suggests that homebound status may also be due to social, psychological, and environmental phenomena.
     
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    And no one at this alleged party INCLUDING her BEST FRIEND went looking for her when she disappeared? Her best friend didn't call her the next morning demanding to know why she disappeared without telling anyone and how worried she had been? She could not explain how she made it the several miles back home with a car, she could not drive. How she even knew which way to go since she didn't know where she was?
     
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    Abortion and she tried as hard as she could to NOT become public. She didn't want to come forward and did everything she could to get the accusation in so it would ruin the man without her name ever coming out. The Democrats made her the target because unless they did they could not use her baseless accusations.
     
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    I agree with this. She told her a story. Those among us who will ask her the hard questions see her serious believability problems.
     
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    A 6 to 8 mile walk over this? And she can't prove she was there. Nobody claims they saw her at the house.
     
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    Agreed.

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    I do not believe she was lying 100%.
    I believe something similar did happen to her, so it wasn't a complete fabrication.
    But it was very clearly not Kavanaugh.
    It just doesn't add up, with WAY too many disputed witnesses and women coming to his defense from throughout his life and over 100 from his high school days alone...of course the left media only reported on the one or two that said bad things about him.

    I believe she allowed herself to get caught up in the influence of others who very much wanted to use her story to get back at Trump. Then she made the single worse mistake of perhaps her entire life - she trusted Senators to use the info to begin an investigation. Instead of course they used and abused her and her story and chose to leak her story to the media. What they did was grossly irresponsible and egregious. In fact, borderline criminal. And they sit on the panel!!!!!!!

    I believe she was a normal person who first allowed herself to get caught up and talked into things, and then tossed under the bus and used by Democrat Senators.
     
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    How did she know which way to go? Why didn't her bestest friend go looking for her? Why didn't she call her the next morning demanding to know why she did that and where did she go and what happened?
    It is completely implausible.
     
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    It’s very clear. You claim he said they deserve it. No where in his post did he even allude to that.
    Liable is a word with more than one definition. Perhaps your unaware of that.
     
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    Her target was Kavanaugh, her goal to keep him off the SC, and her reward the "GoFundMe" money that would inevitably start flowing in.

    It was political activism at the highest and most devious level; from she and those who collaborated with her.
     
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    Disagreed.
     
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    If true, then she suborned perjury and lied to Congress. Why isn't Trump or the Republicans calling for the FBI to begin an immediate investigation?
     
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    So the Democrat's "talking point" is the limit of your knowledge on the subject? Democrats had their chance to request a timely FBI investigation on the matter, and they opted not to.

    Also, why do you and the Democrats think the accused is responsible for launching his own investigation?
     
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