Idiots with guns, once again

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ronstar, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He would be far wiser to deal with the major 10 causes of death than focus on the puny numbers where most use guns to commit suicide. I do not think he liked my example of the woman in TN that took her life with her 4 kids. What would he do to stop that? I do not recall him giving us an answer.

    Perhaps he has a law somewhere in his mind that prevents such acts.
     
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    Are you confused ?
     
  3. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How does universal healthcare raise the 30,000 dead each year from auto accidents?
     
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    Trump is your choice for factual information ?
    Ok, how about, “ people are saying” , ‘ it’s been said, and I believe them. “
    Is that good enough ?
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is my major reason to object to universal health care. FAR too EXPENSIVE.

    If you want to drive further up health care costs, have government supply it to us.

    Health care was cheap when we all paid our own bills. But thanks to Government plus insurance, doctors, hospitals and other providers suddenly struck it rich and now health care is out of sight.

    I want doctors to make good livings. But so many things cost more due to both government and insurance something must stop that.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Besides Trump, in his administration, you have thousands of sources for facts. Stop pretending that Trump causes all the problems.
     
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    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    There would be fewer people working tired at three jobs paying for thier private health insurance.
    Besides..... ‘ people are saying.”
     
  8. Robert

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    i suggest a solution. Pay your doctor. Pay the hospital. Insure only for costs higher than $10,000. Believe it or not, by asking the doctor and hospital, you can obtain steep discounts for paying cash.
     
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  9. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wiser only if the true intent was to save lives. It's obviously not. Gun control is about control of the population. It's why they focus on guns and not saving lives. It's why they focus on "ARs", which cause very few deaths as a percentage of the total. They want to gain a foothold on banning guns then steadily move toward banning all guns. Hillary obliquely admitted it during her 2016 campaign with the Australian-form of gun control comment.
     
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    Post a source for that.
     
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    How’s that ?
    The overhead for private heakth insurance is 6/ times that of Medicare. Universal HC cheaper per capital in every country in the world that has it. We pay MORE then ANYONE
     
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    No. If you make a claim and I challenge the veracity of your claim, the onus is on you.
    Period.
    Always been that way.
    Prove otherwise.
     
  13. Max Rockatansky

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    Good. Focus on that instead of seeking to undermine the Constitution of the United States and treating innocent, law abiding Americans as criminals.
     
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    And that's the bottom line of the Anti-Gun movement and their useful idiots.
     
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    “People have said.” And I believe them.
     
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    Already did.
     
  17. Robert

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    i am aware of that. Nice to keep pointing out that fact too. I expect too that of all the gunshot wounds, most are not fatal. The people using guns today seem not to be crack shots. Even the cops miss.
     
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    No as you require from me post a factual source for that BS.
     
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    It’s only the NRA, from what I’ve heard, that are criminals.
     
  20. Max Rockatansky

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    Agreed. It's never been about saving lives. They just use that as a fear-mongering excuse to exert control.
     
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    I explained a better way.
     
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    ROFL. Go ahead, keep on believing that.

    FWIW, I watched "The American President" on Cinemax last week. Fun to see where the LW gets all of their flawed ideas: Hollywood movies.
     
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    If it’s a good enough reason for Trump, it should be good enough for you. How dare you doubt his veracity ?
     
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    Did not.
     

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