Mob of white nationalist ‘Proud Boys’ brutally beat several men: ‘Are you brave now, f*****?!’

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  1. Bluesguy

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    They are not white supremist or white nationalist, they defend conservative speakers and when Antifa attacks them they attack back. I don't support what they are doing anymore than what Aftifa is doing but Antifa is the aggressor here. EVERYONE needs to stop the violence and uncivil behavior and let everyone enjoy their rights to free assembly and free speech.
     
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    Yes, this is the standard critical lefty play, professional agitators are deployed to give expression to the rhetoric from the critical lefty leadership, the agitators need to destroy enough property to provoke a strong and forceful enough response from the authorities, denounce the use of force as excessive and disproportionate, and then refuse to discuss the extensive violence and destruction of property by the agitators. The traditional chant is "no justice -no piss".
     
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    If they do, they do. I only want D's just because I want a split gov't. I don't trust either party, so for me a gov't that is neutered, it my kind of gov't.
    Until such a time, the parties can find common ground. Which isn't any time soon.
     
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    Wow. What a post. Not.
     
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    Oooh, you think they've taken a page from the RW side. Interesting.
     
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    I don't know how much flesh there is on this bone that isn't obvious. There is a HUGE difference between Waters, Holder and the women speaking to Flake.
     
  7. Thought Criminal

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    Seriously; don't you ever get tired of the Fake News memes?
     
  8. GraspingforPeace

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    What the hell does this even mean? I’m not going to spend the time to transcript what he says when you can easily just watch the video, you weirdo.
     
  9. dairyair

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    Nah.
    Their needs to be a law broken. Protesting isn't breaking the law. Now, if there's violence and running someone over in a car, that would be criminal.
    Malcontents have been around forever. So I doubt they will dry up.
    But violent crime has been falling since the mid 90s with out all that you posted about.
     
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    Seriously? From this post of yours?
     
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    Sorry, I can't divine an answer from your response.

    Is that a yes, or a no?
     
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    Assaulting Senators in elevators and restaurants isn't protesting, it's criminal and the penalties should be felonies.
     
  13. Plus Ultra

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    Not at all, first off conservatives don't often participate in any sort of rioting, we generally have greater respect for private property and law enforcement. Usually riots are promoted by lefties who are still pursuing "revolutionary" change, they expect the mythical "general strike" will lead to Marx's "world proletarian revolution" which inevitably will produce a "dictatorship of the proletariat" that will seize the means of production (and everything else) to fairly distribute "to each according to his needs and from each according to their abilities".

    Aspiring lefty 'revolutionaries' know full well "world proletarian revolution" will require widespread confrontation to such a degree their leaders will be able to seize control of the government (to install the "dictatorship of the proletariat"). To accomplish this the lefties attempt to turn every protest into a riot by encouraging more violent agitators to cause greater damage (set cars on fire, attempt to break into emblematic institutions of government authority, and especially to use force against the police). The lefties hope the response by law enforcement will be so excessive it will provoke enough general outrage in society (beyond just the critical left) to question the legitimacy of the government and facilitate the installation of the aspired "dictatorship of the proletariat."
     
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    What assault?
    Were the police called on these supposed assaults?
     
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    So the white nationalists and proud boys don't count according to you?
     
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    Maybe he's deaf, like me. I don't watch video without CC.
     
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    They certainly wouldn't be instigating a riot to bring about a dictatorship of the proletariat, not looking to bring about that world proletarian revolution and I doubt they're at all interested in redistributing to any according to their needs. You disagree?
     
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    Not deaf, don't need CC, just find it impossible to debate a video. If you say the video linked has someone you disagree with saying something outrageous (like this posted video of some "Proud Boy"), to dispute it I need to play the video to find something disagreeable was said, then somehow note where along the video some context, qualification, contradiction or other circumstance challenges the claim what was said is reasonably disagreeable, and then get whoever posted the thing to consider whether whatever context, qualification, contradiction or other circumstance I found does in fact challenge the perceived disagreeable thing noted at the outset. It would look like this:
    How are the rest of us going to discuss this? I guess we can all run the video tape, but if whoever offered it in the first place instead had a transcript, we could all see what was said, quote from and discuss it. I expect in this context what is driving the use of a video is the way this "Proud Boy" speaks, his demeanor, language and gestures. If it was an economist discussing the multiplier effect in Keynesianism nobody would claim it makes more sense to use a video, especially not if citing statistics. One simply cannot argue about a video, it is not possible to challenge an interpretation of video, your segment means whatever it does to you, I could see the same thing and interpret it differently.
     
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    I have no idea whether the police were called, but they should have been.
     
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    In that case, I don't see any group attempting that.
     
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    And what was done, to warrant the police to intervene?
     
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    You must be unaware of leftist goals and aspirations, read up on Marx or just 'google' these; "dictatorship of the proletariat", "general strike", "world proletarian revolution", "to each according to their needs and from each according to their abilities" (all four Marxist essentials).
     
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    Republicans need to stand up and condemn this **** ASAP rather than hope it will go away.
     
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    I'm now a Republican again (voted 3rd party last election), and I condemn white nationalists, the KKK, nazis, Antifa, BLM, and every hate group out there.
     
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    Sure. Again, I see no group pushing that.
    I don't think you do either.
     

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