Caught on video: A teenage girl being punched by a cop at Coral Square Mall

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  1. TrackerSam

    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it is. Explain why the majority of police brutality incidents happen in cities controlled by Democrats. Start with Baltimore.
     
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    You are welcome to turn it into a political issue, but I'm not going down that path.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can we have the part before she was already taken to the ground for resisting? Would you have us believe that the cops, knowing that cell phone video was being taken, took a a girl to the ground and hit her while she was complying with them? Do you think we should know more before bleating racism?
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's because the ones most often shouting police brutality, and they're not wrong, keep electing Democrats and expecting a different outcome.
     
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    Pants Well-Known Member

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    And maybe, just maybe, it isn't a political situation. Are you saying, then, that Republican states don't have police brutality issues?
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a local problem, not state. I never said state-nice try though. Democrats keep getting elected by promising to end police brutality but nothing ever changes.
    When you own black votes you don't actually have to work for them. They work for you. You don't have to lift a finger to improve inner city schools, streets or anything else and they'll still vote Democrat.
     
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  7. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope he gets the death penalty, don't you?

    Be honest, if the cops shoot and kill Elrod there won't even be a sniffle by the media or some folks on this board. But if cops shoot the black guy who killed a cop then all hell will probably break loose; there will be protests and riots and I'm pretty sure you'll agree I'm right. These days it's all about color, and when it's not about color then it's about gender, immigration status or Islamic beliefs - plain old right and wrong do not exist because there's no political advantage to merely being right.
     
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    police brutality or police corruption is far from isolated to cities, and hence makes your argument as partisan as possible.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Says you, but you know it's true. No one said it was isolated but of course you needed to assume it was said (straw man) because you can't argue the facts. The vast majority of it is in the cities.
     
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    i know it is patently false. personal experience, duck nc, got a speeding ticket in traffic, $10, had to go to court because i was out of state, or pay additional $40. at ft polk la, for exercise, local police pulled over people threatened them with dwi, because they had a security clearance would have lost it, had to pay $1500. they got caught when they pulled over an fbi agemt!!
     
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    superbadbrutha Banned

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    Funny how these guys never get shot and killed.

    Well they shot and killed him this afternoon I haven't seen any protests or riots, so NO I won't agree.

    It has always been about color in this country, when hasn't it been.
     
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    superbadbrutha Banned

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    He is definitely telling the truth about Ft Polk, LA. It was a 10 mile stretch between the Post and Leesville that was nothing but a speed trap.
     
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    Should have tazed her.
     
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    Stupid video clip, another obviously edited video to show only what people want. But lets be honest, does a 14 year old girl (big 14 year old girl I will admit) require such physical restraint? If so, what would be "enough" to allow an officer such restraint?

    And yes, punching someone IS a form of restraint, try not allowing yourself to be handcuffed and see what happens.

    “This charge is based on a self-defense reaction to a screaming, threatening subject immediately after she had committed a felony assault on Officer Soucheray by intentionally spitting her saliva into his face,” Peter Wold, Soucheray’s attorney, said in a statement. “Officer Soucheray reacted with reasonable force. Officer Soucheray regrets the attention this political reaction may bring to his fellow officers at the St. Paul Police Department and does assure them that he will defend himself vigorously against this unfortunate action.”

    So, the girl committed a felony, threatened the officer and ended up committing assault on the officer by spitting.

    I doubt at that point the officer needed to punch her, but is this THAT over the top? Honestly, at this point, not to me but we will see but as usual, I will ask what do we actually expect of our officers?

    Should they just 'take it' when someone is spitting in their face?

    Spitting is a form of assault, should it not be?

    Are things supposed to be different because the person is 14?

    Is it supposed to be different because she is a woman?

    IMO from what we can see so far; no they should not take it, yes spitting is assault (same as punching), no a person should not be treated different in the field (court/legal is different), absolutely no should she be treated differently for being a woman.

    I guess we will see, but so far I think the officer acted technically correctly, however did not use the appropriate level of force at that point in the altercation. Definitely shouldn't be "charged", but some form of discipline or classes or something should be performed.

    But if this is a "SHE IS A CHILD, SHE IS A WOMAN, WE SHOULD LET HER DO WHAT SHE WANTS!!!!"

    Then my answer is absolutely and resounding no, the victim mentality thing is disgusting and I don't care how much of a victim someone is. If they break out laws they need to follow the punishment.
     
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    Problem is that this is a 20/20 hindsight problem then.

    Things like this don't start at punching, it elevates as the person is attempted apprehension.

    Using a tazer is an all or nothing thing and deciding when to taze someone is as big a decision as punching. I think that would lead down a road with even more lawsuits against officers.
     
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    lol, was just about to comment on how much of an NPC statement that was until I saw yours.

    Happy to see you using it as well, I am shocked at how incredibly accurate that termis
     
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    She's black, It seems They have a different set of rules when they are arrested.

    Very few of these cases would even happen if the people under arrest cooperated.
     
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    It's Florida, the land of Jim Crow. At least the girl didn't get shot because the thug cop
    *feared for his life.*
     
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    Yeah, wishful thinking. I know legally he most likely couldn't do it.
     
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    Did someone die?
    Missed that part
     
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    It's a teenage thug, at least she didn't shoot the cop. How much you willing to bet that in 5 years she's either in jail, dead or tending to her 4 babies?
     
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    It's like showing WWII, but starting the video 0:01 seconds before the bombing of Hiroshima.
     
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    Means she is black.

    When was the last time a 14yr old, black, teenage girl shot a cop?

    Nice rightwing, racist babble.
     
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    Yea because everyone knows this 14yr old girl was just putting a beat down on this two cops. Smfh.
     
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    No, they have white thugs. Just more black ones.
    They don't calculate age or last time someone committed a crime when responding.
    This whole post is racist babble.

    Maybe someone should tell the parents, to raise their kids right.
     
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