Abortion and poverty

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Bowerbird, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Bowerbird said:
    Really?

    How are you going to affect that change?






    Uh, did ya see the "self " in "self control" ???


    YOU can't effect change in others with your self control...

    "Self" control means what it says....you can't force someone to have "self" control...:)
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is anything but sudden. It was long before I first called you out on your false claim to care. If you started doing instead of saying, it would be a sudden change for you. Its not too late!
     
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    Yes, I've said it in this thread a hundred times. That my 'solution' is to live responsibly .. myself. Did you miss every one of them?
     
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    Because there are smart people out there, who for whatever reason, have lived very sheltered lives. They don't realise there are other ways of doing things. Many westerners, for example, are incredibly naive. They think all of this stuff is utterly unavoidable. They literally don't know there are better ways. I mean, LITERALLY.

    Those poor women will not become poorer if they don't become pregnant. I'm pretty sure they would be aware of this, but I guess you think they're too stupid to make the connection?
     
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    Uh, from your posts I gather that you think women are stupid , irresponsible, lust-filled nymphomaniacs, too stupid to make the connection between having kids and poverty, irresponsible if their BC fails, stupid if they have an unwanted pregnancy..

    ..in fact I haven't seen a shred of respect for women from you at all..
     
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    Smart people do stupid things. Responsible people pay for their own mistakes.
     
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    On the contrary, I'm the one saying women can do this. You're the one saying they can't.

    When there is a choice between the life of a child and the convenience of an adult, it would be the height of disrespect to side with the adult.
     
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    Then why are you concerned when others do not follow this tenet?
     
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    No, I'm the one who realistically knows that not all humans are as perfect as you are.....nor do they need to be.....nor will they be...

    I NEVER said they can't be anything but AGAIN you insist I said things I never did because you have no good argument....why else would you "misrepresent" what I post ???


    YOU have totally vilified women...

    I'm not discussing children so I don't know what you're talking about...
     
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    Or their insurance company does...
     
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    If one has the basic sense to know not to stand in front of oncoming traffic, how should they feel when they observe everyone around them does not have the same basic sense?
     
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    Yeah we know that theoretically it is possible for BOTH men and women to remain celibate

    But history has shown that they don't - even when religion is on the line. You know, I. The Middle Ages they used to test the resolve of young men wanting to become monks by making them sleep with a virgin girl for one night. If they could resist they could enter the monastery. They had to stop the practice though. They ran out of young virgin girls.

    So, what are you proposing be done about this?
     
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    Been to Asia? Seen the foot traffic?

    So, what is your proposal to stop people having sex?
     
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    How about bribery? Financial incentives for not engaging in sexual encounters.
     
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    Standing room only, sometimes on the shoulders of another. The number of high tops is truly mind boggling.

    Perhaps chemical suppressants added to the local water supplies to lower the intensity and instances of sexual impulses. The approach was utilized with fluoride in the united states for dental health purposes, so it is not without either merit or precedent.
     
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    ah ... maybe because there's a tiny unborn child involved?

    did I really need to spell that out? :(
     
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    Why do you keep asking? I've answered so many times now that it's actually embarrassing (for you to keep doing it).

    I'm forced to simply assume that you hate the answer so much that you must pretend I didn't say it. Why would you hate the answer? Oh yeah .. because it requires PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
     
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    Are you a billionaire? You'll need even more than that...you sure don't want OTHERS to pay for what YOU want do you???

    :) Start writing those BIG checks :)

    BTW, HOW do you propose to PROVE they aren't having sex :) ???
     
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    NO, you have NOT said what you are going to do about it....I haven't seen any answer except you telling people what to do....and THAT'S no solution:)
     
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    Abortion affects your life in NO WAY....do you really go around mourning all those millions of fetuses that were never there ???!!!! REALLY!!!
     
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    Having insurance is responsible!
     
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    You hate the answer too, I see. Is personal responsibility THAT objectionable to you? Seriously?
     
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    Exactly. That's my point.
     
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    Well, yes. It's a 100% effective solution.

    Why do you keep pretending that it isn't? Still think women have no control over themselves, and no decision making powers over what happens with/to their body?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NO, you have NOT said what you are going to do about it....I haven't seen any answer except you telling people what to do....and THAT'S no solution:)


    I in no way said that personal responsibility is objectionable to me.

    When one deliberately "misrepresents" what another says it means they have NO argument and must resort to "misrepresenting" what others say.
     
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