Ocasio-Cortez On Paying For Expensive ‘Medicare for All’ Plan: ‘You Just Pay For It

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    Obama claims credit for the good economy we have today, I agree with him......if it wasn't for Obama we wouldn't have never elected Trump.
     
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    It is possible and necessary to seal the border from illegal entry

    This no different from Customs at international airports monitoring who enters our country
     
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    How is the GOVERNMENT going to pay for it?
     
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    There are 325,000,000 Americans and 11,000,000 illegals. Thats 3%. BUT, you realize that we are already paying for their medical care right ?

    Add I tot hat what Americans pay for insurance premiums now, and most, if not all of that is covered
     
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    I suspect there are far more than 11 million illegals in America

    California may have thst many all by itself
     
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    The Mexican border is a 1000 miles long. You cannot “seal it”. And the Canadian border is what, 3 times that ?

    You also realize that most “illegals” are one who have overstayed their visas, and who came in via planes and ships right ?
     
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    The government isn’t, we are, since WE are the government. But you knew that already
     
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    You may be right MAC. I just posted what the government says. We do need to change, and/or just enforce the laws we have, or create new laws that are deterrents. Something has to be done we agree. But from my perspective, the “wall” is a bad idea, and it will not work
     
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    2300 miles

    We can make it very iffy for migrants and gang bangers to cross the border and greatly reduce the number to manage to make it across
     
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    They also forget about completely destroying 50% of the globe's medical innovation.
     
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    How does that happen. Most of the medical innovation today comes from colleges
     
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    No it doesn't. There's a history of price controls killing innovation.
     
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    Why?
     
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    Tell us why state management is impossible.
     
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    Lol. The complete naivety.
     
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    It is single payer not you pay the doctor and hospital, but then you knew that. So how is GOVERNMENT going to pay for it?
     
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    The fastest growing sector of family practices is cash businesses that don't accept insurance. The services are on a menu so that prices cam be compared.

    Also, college tuition is growing faster than the cost of healthcare and our education system sucks because it has no competition. These are two terrible examples.

    Thirdly, people travel thousands of miles for quality specialists for heart and kidney issues. What you're talking about is a healthcare class system.
     
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    The same way we pay for useless wars
     
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    These folks have never tried to project something for 10 years. They have no clue that it is impossible for any group to put together a forecast for simple things over 10 years. Hell, they can't even project next year with a known system. It's waaaay to complicated for central planning.

    Now, queue up the examples of countries similar to Houston.
     
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    Right, because you can't oppose all stupid things.
     
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    The bolded portion is made fun of after the meeting by the 20% of people actually doing ****.

    Tax payers are currently less than 50% of the population.
     
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    Multiple links to credible sites that prove this otherwise you are adding nothing to this discussion.

    Traditionally when universities have made medical tech they make money from the patents and business does the work to bring it to market.
     
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    Government is always more efficient.
     
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    They are grossly underestimating the amount of illegals here. That number hasn't changed in years despite illegals keep coming by the thousands each month. Some are saying realistically there are at least 3 times that number here which would make more sense. Then given the fact they spit on our laws and keep coming forcing us to take them in and there's no end in sight, this is monumental and catastrophical. And it's ALL on the American taxpayer which I gotta tell you pisses me off to the max. Sick of these invading parasites. Everyone else needs to get sick of it or it will never stop. The democrats rewarding their behavior is what keeps them coming.
     
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    That's ****ing classic. On ya.
     

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