TRUMP CRIES FRAUD AS A DEMOCRAT PULLS AHEAD IN ARIZONA

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  1. jwmac

    jwmac Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd like to know how many times Mickey Mouse, or Juan the illegal had their votes counted...Demos make a mockery of elections.
     
  2. ocean515

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    LOL

    Here's a tip. When you're going to personally attack someone, make sure the insult is spelled properly.

    Maroon?

    So you can't insult people without looking foolish, and you want to attempt to school me?

    Too funny.
     
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    I'm not here to take your MSATS....

    It's all covered in an article by somebody who presumably lives in Arizona, and thus knows the issues...

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...t-republican-party-mcsally-sinema/1935158002/

    And it's good that all counties will allow their curing through the same date, but it's not the D's fault that smaller (R) counties didn't cure after Election Day...
     
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    I think an absentee ballot with signatures that don't match indicate fraud.

    Do you know how absentee voting works?
     
  5. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Too funny that you don't know the derivation of the word Maroon.... makes me question your American heritage frankly...
     
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    ocean515 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Got it, so you can't explain why Democrats weren't allowing the same process outside certain areas.

    You understand it required the courts to get involved to solve the Democrats resistance.
     
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    LMAO.....the Demos shot their wad. Now 500k votes to go and the Majority favoring McSally.

    Naturally the Demos are trying to spin it like they got a chance. :laughing:
     
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    Good lord do you know anything about signatures. Are they employing handwriting experts? It’s an attempt to suppress the vote.

    It’s why I refuse. Absolutely refuse to vote by mail. I take the paid time off my employer provides and stand in line. Try stealing my vote *******s.

    Matching signatures is a terrible form of authentication.
     
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    :roflol:

    I understand maroon is a color.

    ma·roon
    [məˈro͞on]
    ADJECTIVE
    1. of a brownish-crimson color.
      "ornate maroon and gold wallpaper"
    NOUN
    1. a brownish-crimson color.
      "the hat is available in either white or maroon" ·
      [more]

    I'm questioning something about you, but it's probably not nice to put it in writing.
     
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    Not to defend his points but that’s a take on Bugs Bunny, not a typo:)
     
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    What the Demos are worried about is the Illegals that sent in Mail in ballots. The getting caught part is what worries them the most.
     
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    Who is Brenda Snipes?
    Republican Gov. Jeb Bush asked Snipes to serve as Supervisor of Elections in Broward County – Florida's second-most populous county – nearly 15 years ago.

    Snipes has had several election-related incidents:
    August 2016: Broward elections office post election results before polls close
    CBS Miami reported the Broward County Supervisor of Elections Office inadvertently posted election results 30 minutes before the polls closed at 7 p.m.

    May 2018: Destroyed ballots in Wasserman-Schultz race
    In May 2018, the Sun Sentinel reported a judge ruled the Broward County Supervisor of Elections Office violated state and federal laws by destroying ballots from a 2016 Congressional race too soon — and while the ballots were the subject of a lawsuit against the office.

    August 2018: Judge orders Snipes to stop opening mail-in ballots in secret

    Politico reported a judge ordered for Snipes to stop opening mail-in ballots in secret or before the county's three-member canvassing board to determine the ballots' validity.

    August 2018: Vote-by-mail late arrivals in the primary election
    CBS Miami reported the Broward County Supervisor of Elections Office had late delivery on about 5,000 vote-by-mail ballots for the 2018 primary election.

    https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/p...d-county-supervisor-of-elections/67-612946611

    How is this Snipes woman not in jail?
     
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    Keep dancing.

    You don't even know what standards are being employed. Clearly, the signatures are so different, they are requiring special handling. Really?

    And then, after polls are closed, the Dems are effectively taking the vote again? Do you know what they are doing in this "curing" process?

    And you hit the nail on the head. Stealing votes is terrible. It doesn't matter who wins, the process must be transparent and must be held to extremely high standards. It's what our Founding Fathers died to establish for us.
     
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    LOL

    I guess th-th-th-that's all there is to say folks!

    Perhaps I didn't realize the poster was a cartoon rabbit.
     
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    “Republicans say the practice is inconsistent because other county recorders don't try to verify ballots with mismatched signatures beyond Election Day.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-republicans-claiming-voter-fraud/1947000002/
     
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    Didn't read the article I provided, didja.... don't make it so obvious next time...
     
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    don't match is subjective, I think every vote should count, just cause a persons signature looks a little different is not a good enough reason to invalidate their votes, this is another hanging chad issue

    signature matches lead to party bias, if they voted democrat and republican counting it, they may see it as not matching or visa versa
     
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    I've been voting absentee for years. Just easier, and given my vote means nothing in California, it's more for the principle than anything else.

    On the envelope cover, it requires a signature. That mailing envelope is the only thing that ensures the ballot inside was indeed cast by me. Separate the envelope from the ballot inside, and the chain of authenticity is broken. Call me days after the polls closed, and I'm being allowed to vote again, with the knowledge of how the legitimate vote went. Meaning, I could change my vote.

    If my signature doesn't match what is on the records, it should be voided. How else can voters be assured the process is legitimate?

    I would support a follow up mailing from the elections board explaining my vote wasn't counted and why. That would give me a heads up for the next time, and allow me time to correct whatever the problem is.
     
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    It is inconsistent... but that's not the fault of the D's.... read the article I posted in post #29... better than the USAToday one...

    SNIP
    All of Arizona's 15 counties take part in this process before Election Day, but only a handful of them allow voters to continue "curing" their ballots after Election Day.

    That inconsistency is what the Republican Party wanted a judge to rectify.

    Maricopa and Coconino counties, both of which have Democratic county recorders running their elections, had planned to allow voters to cure their ballots through Nov. 14. Apache and Pinal counties had planned to stop curing Friday, and Pima County had planned to stop Saturday.

    The other counties stopped curing ballots at 7 p.m. on Election Day.
    ENDSNIP

    What the R's wanted to do was to make the other counties continue curing, which I'm all for, even though this whole thing sounds like a pretty stupid process overall...
     
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    your not gonna believe Trump are you.... lol.. the king birther, the man known to lie time and time again....
     
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    Of course I read the article.

    Did you notice what was written. As a result of court action, they will now apply the same process to all counties. That wasn't happening before Friday.

    The legal challenge centered on a procedural lack of consistency in the time frame counties allow voters to correct signature issues on mail-in ballots. ​

    Did you read the article?
     
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    In Maricopa County, along with Apache, Coconino and Pima Counties, voters have five days after an election to fix signature problems on their mailed in ballots, in what is known as the "cure" method.

    "We're doing it under my administration. I'm going to make sure if we can cure that under the law which we can then we will," said Maricopa County Recorder Adrian Fontes.

    Meanwhile, in other counties, signatures have to be verified by Election Day.

    I'm looking at the email from the Yavapai County attorney, and he lays it out basically that they stopped curing ballots at 7:00 p.m. on Election Day," said Brett Johnson, attorney for the Republican Party. "I think that those basic facts that we need to get out from each county on how they're curing or not curing different ballots, because that's the fundamental issue that we have."
    http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/ar...ting-could-delay-senate-outcome-to-next-week_


    Why are counties in Arizona doing the mail ballot signature verification different? That’s weird
     
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    Ya I saw that..... wtf Arizona? That is a glaring hole in election procedures imo
     
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    At the very least there should be standard uniform policy throughout the state not this pick or choose that seems to be happening in Arizona.
     
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    Well of course signature recognition is subjective. Do you know how they did that in Arizona? I don't.

    However, there are signatures that are so different, they are requiring special processing.

    A signature on an envelope is the only way to authenticate a mail in ballot. That's it. Once that outer envelope is opened, the potential for fraud expands. Once the two are separated, there is no chain of authenticity.

    So it's the signature that stands above all else. If it's so wrong it can't be authenticated, I'd support voiding it. It doesn't matter if that screws a Republican.

    Phoning someone you can't verify to effectively recast their vote after the polls close is wrong.

    I support a letter being sent to a voter, if their vote is not counted, explaining why, so they can correct it later.

    With so much at stake these days, money can buy anything, and that is the danger.
     

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