Why are guns holy objects in this country?

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    https://www.cchrint.org/2018/03/22/...ween-psychotropic-drugs-schoolmass-shootings/
     
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    You didn't even read it. It links to 30 scientific studies.
     
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    Not a single study makes a connection between psychotropics and shootings. Most of the links are news articles
     
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    What does that have to do with your video game claim? Also note the lack of distinction there between the drugs causing the violence and the withdrawal from the drugs causing the violence. Further note that not one study was listed, only opinions. One person's opinion that 90% of mass shootings were related to SSRI drugs does not a fact make. And as I noted above, it's entirely possible that these kids needed to be locked away even before being given psychotropic drugs.
     
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    And we'll succeed. We will block any Congressional attempt to violate the Constitution just like we always do.

    Ignoring reality dooms your side to failure.

    But go ahead. An easy victory is always welcome.

    This is why it is important to vote for Donald Trump. He will protect us from people who try to abolish freedom and civil rights.
     
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    That is incorrect. A self defense gun is designed for rapid incapacitation of an aggressor.

    A defensive shooting where the aggressor dies but is able to kill the defender before dying is not a success.

    A defensive shooting where the defender survives is a success even if the aggressor also survives.

    How many people were killed in the last Olympic shooting competition? Were the Olympians using their guns properly?

    Americans like freedom and civil rights.
     
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    You would be very liable if you misled the police into killing an innocent person.

    The Constitution forbids any such gun ban within US territory.

    Militias are organized by the government, and therefore are not private.
     
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    None. Our right to carry guns does not cost any lives.

    Well, perhaps a few accidents here and there.

    Guns do not cost any lives aside from the occasional accident.
     
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    Any gun that can be converted that easily is considered a machine gun by the federal government even if it has never been converted.
     
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    A machine gun is legal per federal laws.
     
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    True. But the rules for owning one are more cumbersome than the rules for owning a normal weapon.
     
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    What would have said would not be a lie.
    As long as there is no airport nearby and it's far enough away from another city/town the government would be unable to enforce an overturn.
    They are paramilitary. As long as it's private they can not say the local government removed there guns. Either way no way they would be able to find an appeils court. Wouöd be to much of a hastle for anyone to try
     
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    And they're very expensive.

     
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    Fortunately it's not necessary to buy one to enjoy them. :)

     
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    I attended a fire power demonstration at Eglin AFB Florida in 1958. I can't remember the exact details but it was something like this. They fired one hundred rounds from various machine guns. A WWI 30 calibrer. The firing we on for about ten seconds or so and then a more modern machine gun which might have take five seconds. They then fired the rotary barrel machine guns carried in new fighters at that time. It was just a short blp. Maybe a second or two. That was sixty years ago.
     
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    The US government has ample power to enforce its authority over every square inch of its territory.

    If they are acting on behalf of the government, they are not private, and the courts will hold the government accountable for their actions.

    Not at all. Everyone in America has access to our system of courts.
     
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    All you have is your opinion
     
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    It is indeed a false report if the individuals are not engaging in threatening behavior, such as brandishing their firearms at others. The mere presence of a privately owned firearm is not sufficient to constitute either a crime, or a threat to public safety.

    Except mass shootings are not being committed every day in the united states.
     
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    The right to choose to cease existing if such is ultimately desired. Stop opposing the will of the people who are tired of living and simply wish to end what they perceive as being their suffering.
     
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    Suicide is a personal choice, and amounts to two thirds of the equation. The other third of the equation is committed largely by those who cannot legally possess firearms under any circumstances. Very few legal firearm owners ever actually go on to commit murder.
     
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    And an underdeveloped opinion at that.
     
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    Because understanding why police departments are local demonstates why your idea of policing the country with an overarching centralized militia is not a good one. If you sent militia to police my state they wouldn’t be on your payroll long.

    For what it’s worth I’m not a big fan of some current LEOs either. :)
     
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    A central force prevents small units going rough.

    They would not confront the police they would police seperatly from them with their own number 912. Soon the population would switch to calling the militia for help when they relies they are not at risk of being shot.
     

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