HORMONE-DISRUPTING WEED KILLER TAINTS DRINKING WATER FOR MILLIONS OF AMERICANS

https://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/01/world/from-toilet-to-tap-water/index.html

Toilet to tap is not as prevalent as you think in the USA, the confusion may come from EU countries have had toilet to tap systems since before ww2. Which is ironic as we have far superior water security but some may also say this is why we have far better water security. In London people were growing man boobs from the excess hormones left by the pill in the early 2000's better filtration sorted that out.

I have no issues at all with a toilet to tap system with the correct filtration systems.

When California say pioneering system they mean recycle 100 year old European tech and pretend it's a new thing they invented.

 

I live next close to an airport since they rerouted flights over our houses we have seen increase in damage to the roofs, due to acidity. The airport admitted as much in the local papers. Do wonder what it must be doing to ours lungs.

Probably from sulphuric acid in the plane exhausts these effect us because planes are very low when they cross our houses.

I also have co2 ppm tester and at home I test 600ppm which is insane, this is trapped exhaust gasses, co2 is heavier than air. For reference when I use the tester elsewhere 400-450ppm is standard depending where I try it.

I paid £550 for my co2 tester so you need a use for it lol.

 

Yep.
It's the same water now as when dinosaurs walked the earth.

Melissa Meeker, executive director, Water Reuse

 

The water probably came from comet's and asteroids early in earth's life.

The weather cycle is the largest distiller on the planet.

 

The water from those vending machines in front of the grocery store is not good to drink on a regular basis.

 

That kind of "science" is what is taught in too many charter and religious schools...

 

Diabetics. If I don't have bottled water I drink tap.

 

There are no simple answers and I dont expect anyone here to have all the answers

You want to reduce fertilizer inputs

But without fertilizer you will soon have no agricultural production

Cattle feed lots can be an excellent sourse of manue which is a great organic fertilizer

I think you meant to say reduce artificial chemical high nitrogen fertilizers that create troublesome runoff

Scientific research is working on pesticides and herbicides that are non toxic to humans

But left untreated crop damage from bugs abd disease can be devistating

starvation is a quicker way to die than toxic chemicals

Again, I dont have all the answers either but the issue is not a simple one

 

The why are you trying to simplify it?

I suggest you look into regenerative agriculture. Here is a presentation on the principals and how it changes the soil: https://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change

Here is some scientific research from Texas A&M University discussing the potential these methods have a creating carbon sinks from livestock grazing:
Cow-calf farms converting to multi-paddock grazing in the Southern Great Plains likely net carbon sinks

This research has been replicated multiple times in research and is being successfully applies across many ranches and farms. The information is out there if you care enough to look into it.

As far as starvation goes, food waste is a huge problem. But, instead of trying to manipulate the land into producing even more food to be wasted, we should be reversing the effects of the plow with these methods mimicking ecology.

 

Really? I never knew that. Never let it be said I never learned something from you. Thanks.

 

And the same groups who oppose chemical fertilizers and pesticides oppose GMO's which need fewer.

 

You are not adding anything new to the discussion

There are many ideas to increase prodiction, reduce costs, and decrease the use of unheathy chemicals.

Some of the breathless reports you find on the internet are successful and some are not

I didnt spend much time on your first link since Ted takes too long to get to the point

Maybe I will look at it later

 

add a splash of lemon juice to the tap water for drinking. it will help eliminate a few other bacteria and of course the taste.

 

I would fit RO for drinking/cooking and run the waste to tank for toilets, garden, etc.

When you do RO the water you need to re-mineralise the water.

In a decent RO system you could feed water from Fukishima through it and get drinking water at the end, it's that good.

 

What???
How dare you question what is good for shareholders in BigFarma!!!!!!!!
Good God man!!....who cares if a few 1000 babies are born with defects or die... what about the shareholders right to make more money?
Get with the plan here.
We exist to fill shareholder pockets.... long live the corporatocracy!

 

Sounds like we need less people in the country.

 

Just look into regenerative agriculture. It is a movement beyond organic.

 

Not at all. We just need to do a better job of stewardship.

 

What I can say is if you are drinking unfiltered tap water...stop.
Chlorine alone is enough of a reason. Drinking chlorine everyday adds a multitude of risks and health problems.
But honestly, forget the water. It pales on comparison to the cataclysmic health problems from eating pre-prepared foods.

 

I am looking into it and I think it has potential

The last word in agricukture has not been spoken yet because we are still learnimg

Perennial grain crops would potentially be a step forward

And thanks for alerting me to this topic

I am more interested in hydroponics for vegetables

but its dificult to imagine 50 thousand acres of hydroponic corn or wheat

 

I am glad you agree. It does, in a way, simplify the climate change debate in that, regenerating soils sequesters more carbon than we produce if we could implement these methods across the globe, which it is to some degree. In fact, Allan Savory is HQd in Africa. He is the speaker in the original Ted talk link I shared, and founder of the Savory Institute. https://www.savory.global/

Here is an excellent video of drone footage over a regen ag ranch. There is a short synopsis that scrolls across the screen at the beginning, but it has very nice aerial imagery of the herd and the varying grass maturity and also the flock of birds that moves into the ranch area due to the increase in plant, insect, and microbial diversity.

 

just about everyone that drinks bottled water

 

I don't think weed killers can tell the difference between weeds and humans, so I would avoid consuming them. I buy local and organic, but if they are using this water for their crops, I don't see how we can avoid it.

 

If you want to go back and read the comments between Mac and I, you can see that there is some things that can be done to dramatically reduce the use of agricultural inputs.

 

My chime into that is hydroponic has more application in many "mini-gardens" than single large growth fields.
Think of each apartment building having it's own hydro setup. This is very doable.
Of course the largest hurdle is getting around BigFarma that would fight it tooth and nail, including buying up patents only to bury them.