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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So the FF's were supposed to able to see into the future and realize the carnage that fully automatic weapons would pose and include a provision banning them from being in the hands of We the People?

    That is just so utterly ludicrous as to be beyond belief that anyone is even trying to use that puerile position.

    The FF's were prescient enough to provide Congress with the power to pass legislation in the future for the Welfare of We the People. Keeping dangerous lethal weapons out of circulation falls under the concept of the Welfare of We the People.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Wrong, the ORIGINAL Militia Acts of 1792 required everyone to buy their own firearms.

    The information provided by the Registry indicated that there was a shortfall which is why Congress provided the funding in the Militia Act of 1808.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Another load of NRA sourced bovine excrement!

    The SCOTUS has UPHELD the ability of Congress to pass legislation REGULATING the possession of firearms.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms_in_the_United_States#Modern_commentary

     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Others include the Supreme Court which upholds the Constitutional right of Congress to REGULATE firearms.
     
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    Inane deflection from the point!

    The PURPOSE of the Militia Registry was proven to have VALUE by the fact that it identified a SHORTFALL in the available firearms versus manpower and Congress subsequently acted in 1808 to remediate the situation.
     
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    Okay, and what would be the purpose of a registry today?
     
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    Exactly the same as you agreed to in an earlier post.

    The purpose is to provide information in order to make INFORMED decisions.
     
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    Yes, you equated it to census data. Census data DOES provide information in order to make informed decisions, but what informed decisions could come from the registration of guns? It makes no sense. Other than the "informed decision" of using the addresses where the guns are located and taking them off people.
    Also, why are you incapable of answering post 473? http://www.politicalforum.com/index...phical-content.545820/page-24#post-1069900679
     
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    Why are you making the fallacious assumption that the singular purpose of the registry would be to deprive anyone of their firearms?

    Are you incapable of coming up with no other purpose for the iormation contained registry of firearms?

    https://thinkprogress.org/ralph-norman-pulls-gun-during-constituent-event-no-regrets-b3ef2e5a113e/

    https://votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/47930/ralph-norman-jr#.W_PW2GgzbSE

     
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    Why are you making the fallacious assumption that the singular purpose of the registry would be to deprive anyone of their firearms?

    Are you incapable of coming up with no other purpose for the information contained registry of firearms?
     
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    I can't think of why else it would be needed for future gun control laws.
     
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    The NRA obviously endorsed Rep Norman given the ratings they have given him and he was the one that used his gun to intimidate others.
     
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    So if the registry information identified that a certain type of firearm was more likely to be involved in instances of children getting their hands on them would it not make sense for regulations to be introduced requiring that type of firearm be made with child safety features in place?
     
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    Alright, I'll give you that, but you what about the threats to members of congress? Have you come up with a link to the NRA yet?
     
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    You mean safety features built into the gun during the manufacturing process?
     
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    Yes and retrofitting safety features if appropriate.
     
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    Precisely what did Heller actually state with regard to the united states government being able to implement firearm-related restrictions? Exactly what is it allowed to implement? Be specific and elaborate.
     
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    Obviously not.
    Which is why it's not my position.
    If you contend that article one, section eight contains any such power, feel free to quote the text.
     
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    I QUOTED Justice Scalia in my post that you obviously FAILED to read and/or comprehend!
     
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    :roflol:

    You just CONTRADICTED yourself!

    :roflol:
     
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    Why would that require the registration of guns?
     
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    Alright, I'll give you that, but you what about the threats to members of congress? Have you come up with a link to the NRA yet?
     
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    Contradicted myself? I don't think so.

    The constitution contains no legislative power that would allow congress to enact a law prohibiting the people of the several states from possessing firearms. You seem to be saying that it does. So feel free to cite the specific text.
     
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    Of the approximately 60 million unorganized militia members in the US, you can expect that maybe 3 million have an AR-15 or similar rifle. What informed decision would you make with that information?
     

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