Whats wrong with racism?

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Except you said what you were proud of your countrymen for was hunting foreigners in the streets.

    And that you found anyone not an ethnic German, something you've yet to define and distinguish from say an ethnic Frenchman, having residence in Germany to be a waste of your resources. Like air. Or water. Or food.
    Usually when I tell someone to stop breathing my ****ing air its because I want them to die. That's generally perceived by others as hatred, such as to make your actual feelings, if they are indeed not hatred, rather moot to them. You grasp this?
     
  2. Distraff

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    Just trying to explore his view-point.
     
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    I am a former democrat as well, now a moderate. I know one democrat who has hateful views toward Republicans, but he is a weird guy. All the rest don't.
     
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    Many would say culture. There is no evidence of a Madagascar gene that is making them incapable of reaching western levels of advancement.

    If we just rolled back a few hundred years ago, Germany was filled with ignorant savages, while the Middle East and China were far more advanced. Also, many formerly poor nations can later on turn rich, and become poor again.
     
  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Per the assessment on political compass, I am considered center. Read the press and watch on TV and you can tell Democrats despise republicans. Some say maybe 40 percent so hate us.
     
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    Define race for me so I know how you are using the term. I'm not sure if you mean skin color, nationality, culture, or something else.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is easy for me to ignore most other races where I live given my community is around half white and half asian. Asians were well known not to run in gangs, do not destroy property of others and as you get to know them have high expectations of their children who tend to get good school grades.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with you personally being a racist. we live in a free society and you are free to express whatever beliefs you have. You are certainly free to boycott any business or avoid any people that you wish. As long as you do not want one segment of the citizens of your country not to have the same rights I don't see any thing wrong. Racists are just one more group in a diverse population.
     
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    You have narrowed down race as though scientifically it is nothing yet then attack racism and call it evil.

    Take the case blacks love to make. That they are oppressed yet they commit far more crime per capita and constantly complain they are ill treated. Were you correct, they have no cause to complain since per you, coming from Africa, we are all the same people.
     
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    You're confusing biology with history.
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting how mistaken you are. Apparently you are confusing biology with history.
     
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    Eastern Germany isn't a country. What you'll find in a capitalist society is that your culrural enclave will be gradually blended with the rest of the country.
     
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    Biologically speaking, there has been very little time that has elapsed since humanity departed from Africa. Africans that came to the United States were done so forcefully and have lived in oppressive and squalid conditions ever since. Based upon that history, it makes sense politically to organize in order to better advocate for alleviating this historically disadvantaged and oppressed group. It is not about some scientific underlying justification that proves races are really different or one is superior, all that is nonsense, there are largely superficial differences between what we call "race" and the modern understanding of it is largely based upon national fictions which arose with the ideologies of Nationalism in Europe and with a justification of having a kind of slave caste such as in the Americas, in order to justify such brutality.
     
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    What makes you believe humans originated in Africa? To the exclusion of the rest of the world!!!

    So. all you can discuss is early americana slaves, first imported by the English.
    How do you account for the very wealthy blacks and highly successful blacks?

    I have never argued superiority over the various races. Race is a classification based on multiple parameters. Not merely being originated from Africa.

    What is your belief in the value of work, food, shelter, fresh vegetables, clothing supplied as was the case with the long distant condition called Americana slavery?

    Slavery is common today in Africa and how to you account for blacks capturing slaves and forcing them to work for them? In America slaves commonly lived in cabins, were fed and had the satisfaction of work. When people do not work as younger men, it seems to me they get quite lazy.

    Also, why do you believe all slaves in America were brutally treated?
     
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    They look much darker in general, more mediterranean. Which makes sense since they have much roman influence. Much more than Germans.
     
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    Those that came here came to exploit our welfare. They came to comitt crime. When your country faces an invasion, you have to act.

    As for your other bla bla. German rescources are for german people. Evrything used for a non german could have been used for a German. It might anger you but we are not worlds welfare ofice.

    If i follow your argumentation that Germany should allow anyone in and house 270 million africans, this would mean our end.

    You might understand i dont want my people to end.
     
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    Wrong again. If we roll back a few hundred years you have a Germany in 13th or 16th century as a center of knowledge, renaissance science, philosophy and art.

    No african nation ever reached european standards. The average IQ of MAdagascar is 68. Thats a genetic component.
     
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    As it looks now the eastern german standards start to switch over to the west. What started in eastern Germany, starts now also in west. In Baden-Württemberg AfD became 2nd strongest party. Same in Bavaria and Hessen.

    West Germans see that in East Germany christmas markets must not be protected like a fort. The german goverment is in panic mode because teh AfD rise. They start to copy the far right narrative.

    I see that as positive.

    I guess thats not what you imagine but it might shock you, that this "blending" includes our point of view and that the end result is not a multicultural utopia but a far harsher ethnocentric point of view, with deportations, propably end of asylum rights and hard border protection laws.
     
  19. TrueScotsman

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    Racism makes for poor history. No understanding of geography, and the advantages that Europeans had over Africa which enabled the emergence of such civilizations. What were they going to do, domesticate rhinos and water buffalo? There are many reasons why civilizations in Mesoamerica and Africa did not develop to the degree European ones did, and genetics has pretty much nothing to do with it.
     
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    Science!!! They weren't trying to discriminate on the rest of the world, this is the region of the world where all our primate ancestors are from.

    There were more slaves when America was quite mature into the 1850s in the South, that's really not that long ago. Black people are human beings, capable of achieving success like anyone else, but the fact of the matter is the wealth inequality disparity is vast and most of the African Americans who are poorer were brought here from subsaharan Africa, versus some which came here of their own free will and are doing better.

    Race is largely folk taxonomy which needs to die and be replaced by more sophisticated and less historically heavy laden ideologies.

    Wait, are you trying to say there was some value to be had out of the oppressive arrangement that Americans perpetrated against Africans in slavery? Find a picture of a steaming pile of feces, and that will summarize my analysis of that value.

    Because they can then sell commodities obtained by slave labor, such as diamonds or lithium to western Capitalists to sell on markets. And there is a lot of lawlessness and political instability in Africa, so many groups independent of governments are enabled to work outside of the rule of law, which empowers traffickers and slavers.

    This is disgusting, frankly I'm done discussing the value of slavery in some kind of sick distortion of history where slavery is viewed as giving beneficial things to these people.



    Educate yourself on reality.
     
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    Europe never had the rescources, good soils and hospitable environments that africa has. Here evry winter was a death threat.

    And yes exactly domesticate water buffalo. Asians domesticated elephants. Africans domesticated nothing. The european Ur was a gigantic bufallo, Far more agressive as the water bufallo. Yet it was doemsticated here and became the cow we have today.

    Genetics have evrything to do with it. IQ is genetics.
     
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    Science is unclear since they found 9,7 million year old hominid teeth in Germany

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...germany-rhine-mainz-archaeology-a8010506.html
     
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    You're thinking from a modern perspective, what you need chiefly in order to have civilizations first flourish is dependable access to water for sustaining agricultural production. The region in Africa where this was accomplished was in Egypt, which was the first and most advanced civilization of its time. The river system in Europe also enabled trade, whereas African geography hampers travel between regions, which made the development of each region more isolated which also impacted competition. Europe was crowded and there were always threats looming off to the east, which empowered the landed warrior class and also drove competition.

    The African Buffalo has to this day never been domesticated, and African Elephants are far more dangerous than their Asian counterparts. Comparing Asian waterbuffalo or the aurochs to the buffalo found in Africa is no comparison. Aurochs could organize in herds of about 30, African buffalo can take up over 1,000 sq km in herd size. Genetics have nothing to do with it, geographical lottery has everything to do with it.
     
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    Yet where is the evidence of hominids in that region in between that tooth and the Neanderthals? It is possible some hominid populations got out of Africa at various points over evolutionary history, but homo sapiens evolved in Africa and spread out from there many millions of years after this fossil.
     
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    In Europe evry winter marks time of doom back then. In bad winters 30 - 40% of the population died.

    Egypt was setteled by caucasians.

    Europe was setteled by bears, gigantic lions and has a much more extreme geography. African rivers like Nile. Congo and Niger allow even transcontinental passage.

    The simple fact is that neanderthals had bigger brains. In Europe and Asia Homo sapiens sapiens mated with Homo sapiens neanderthalensis. This gives all humans outside africa an edge in brain size.
     

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