Christian bakery wins 'gay cake' ruling from UK supreme court

From TV, Hollybrood, and the minority.

 

The term "married" used to mean "Til death do we part". Most will end in divorce. This is not about a word; its about liberty. Marriage is a business contract and nothing more.

The slippery slope argument that accepting gay marriage will lead to acceptance of crimes against children is the weakest yet. How many parents would vote for that?

If you are really concerned about protecting the term "Married" you should protest those who braid wires together before soldering, (Married Joint) and people that spend too much time at work. (Married to their job)

 

I hold, and can demonstrate, that with moral issues, slippery slopes
are not a fallacy.
Just do any casual reading on where morals have gone since 1900.
Will legalizing pornography lead to it becoming mainstream? Nonsense
said everyone who supported the move. Another 15,000,000 Americans
supported pornography in the 2017-2018 period according to the Gallup
polling.

Gay marriage hasn't led to "crimes against children"
because no-one is defining what crimes against children means.
I hold the liberalization of divorce leads to such crimes.
And transgender is certainly going to do the same
And the rampant and growing sexualization of kids will do the same too.

But it appears that gay marriage has led to transgender being the hot
button issue. After that is "won" we might move to polygamy within ten
years (now at 20% approval, up from 5% just 15 years ago.)

Where will it end? I suggest reading up on the Cultural Revolution in
China. Only now activists don't employ class hatred, they employ
identity and class hatreds. Permanent revolution, with a never-ending
horizon of hate and grievances. The activist, no long just controlling
the academy, media and entertainment, now has total control of govt..
Watch Canada's growing speech code, and the rise of thought crimes
and moves against what people wear and say.

 

Oh I thought that you meant the government. What do you mean "the minority?"

 

Do you believe that marriage equality has been achieved in the US?

 

Ridiculous to refer to it as marriage equality when by design marriage is purposeful discrimination between the married and unmaried

 

Exactly. The institution of marriage was created such that humanity would continue, and continue with the highest degree of stability possible to get the young grown up and have them make more children in a stable environment for their children, and so on.

 

You are confusing a contract between two consenting adults with legalizing what is now a crime against children. If your argument had any weight, the legalization of porn would have led to including the underage. How many parents would vote to reduce the age of consent? If 2 consenting adults want to have sex in front of a camera, its none of the governments business.

 

Yes, but "marriage" is an outdated religious concept that has become nothing more than a business contract. Like religion, it is declining.

 

Your "equality" includes all 50 states with laws enforcing those Old Testament prohibitions against closely related couples from marriage. Would seem your version of equality is achieved as long as your favored identity groups are taken care of.

 

Would seem its only remaining purpose in the governments view is to help homosexuals feel equal to heterosexuals.

 

Yes, it's declining.
And with it the commitment that many people want.
And if you do have a marriage of commitment, this
institution can't really support that commitment because
marriage doesn't mean what it once meant (till death do
we part.)
So there's a loss of commitment and its security. And
as statistics show, the number one predicator of crime
is single parentage. Worse, increasingly there's no kids
at all - and leads to societal collapse or the wholesale
importing of people from somewhere else. And these
new people could have totally different views of marriage,
sex and freedom - and they will vote.

 

So every single person's definition of marriage has been recognised in law?

 

I am not talking about now, I am talking about where we are heading as a society.
Child porn is growing about 200-300% per decade (Canada jumped 40% in 2016)
People jailed for child porn are getting out sooner than they did ten years ago.
Child sexualization is more or less here to stay.
Hollywood female sex symbols are getting younger
Children are having sex younger
Pederasty will one day seek to distance itself from pedophilia, and of course, get a new name.
I suppose we will just have to get used to it.

 

Not to mention all of the other multiple definitions of marriage that people may have!

 

Marriage and religion is declining, but so it crime.

We do have a lack of positive guidance for children. If there is no male role model in the home, they find one on the street.

 

...and now if we could just be rid of the Christian bigotry and intolerance towards everyone else things would be all peaches and cream.

People like you are the reason why I am no longer a Christian. Christians preach love of their fellow man but what they really mean is love of your fellow Christian.

 

I pointed to the crime graphs from the early '60's to the early '90's.
Straight up.
I would point these out to liberals and lefties and they would always
say, "Oh that's because of more reporting, not more crime!"
It's a lie, and they knew it.
So now when people say crime is going down, look at the graphs
I say, "No, that's just people giving up reporting crime."

ps we are decriminalizing everything. Soon even selling crack
won't attract attention, let alone a sentence. And see, the crime
rate is falling!!!!

 

I pointed to the crime graphs from the early '60's to the early '90's.
(I am an old guy...)

Straight up.
I would point these out to liberals and lefties and they would always
say, "Oh that's because of more reporting, not more crime!"
It's a lie, and they knew it.
So now when people say crime is going down, look at the graphs
I say, "No, that's just people giving up reporting crime."

ps we are decriminalizing everything. Soon even selling crack
won't attract attention, let alone a sentence. And see, the crime
rate is falling!!!!

 

Please do broad brush. There are many Christians out there who are highly supportive of LBGT+ even to the point where they have gay priests and we're doing SSM, religiously, before it became a legal thing. You statement is like saying all liberals want us to go to socialism.

 

And there's plenty of priests who smoke weed.
Churches these days are quite liberal. No harm
in any of it, really.

 

People can have any definition they want. Im concerned with what is put into the law and could care less what someones personal definition of marriage was. .

 

you can define marriage however you want to, in the law. As long as it doesn't violate the constitution. Banning interracial couples, and same sex couples, violates the constitution. That's why you lost in court.

 

So every single person's definition of marriage has been recognised in law?

 

Sure, but my point is that the left talk about 'marriage equality', when that can only be achieved when every single person's personal definition of marriage is in law.