For all the alarms about voter fraud the right seems awfully quiet about the events in NC FL and WI. Gerrymandering, election fraud, campaign finance violations and lame duck power grabs seem to be the new republican strategy. Have they completely given up on the will of the people?
Because the republicans just got busted for cheating doesn't mean that the Democrats haven't/aren't capable of doing the same thing. No one party can claim the title for honesty.
One party seems to be much more blatant about violating the rights of the people however. Gerrymandering substantially benefits republicans more than democrats and — while I think all voter fraud should be severely penalized — having individuals that are not eligible to vote that are voting does far less damage than what Republicans are doing. The right once held itself as a bastion of morality and integrity, seems that went out the window completely.
WI GOP have every legal right to tilt the field if they can, and the Dems have every right to oppose it.
This isn't a Republican thing or a Democrat thing. Its a current state of US politics thing. These sides aren't interested in governing. They are dedicated to spending 100% of their time to screw each other over. Look at the Democrats. First thing they did upon winning was joyfully announce plans to try and roll back anything and everything that Trump has done, to cripple his administration with pointless investigations that Congress has no business perusing, and to drop all the justifiable investigations into corruptions surrounding Comey/McCabe/FISA/FBI/DOJ/etc. And what do the Republicans do in return? They throw up as many roadblocks as they can knowing full well that the protracted legal battles which ensue will eat up the courts time until the next election. We made this happen, we the people. We spend the last of the Pres Bush years and all of the Pres Obama years supporting these useless politicians in their crusade to help themselves while lying about wanting to help us. Does anything honestly not think this is going to continue?
So in your mind Democrat’s opening up (some would argue justifiable) investigations is equal to Republicans openly stealing elections by voter manipulation and gerrymandering? Do you feel it’s a problem when 50% of the voters could only elect 1/3 of the legislators? Republicans have abandoned democracy.
Democratic voters in WI are contained in small urban areas while republicans are more evenly spread throughout the state. Not sure why you are going on about Gerrymandering. Tell your democrats to either move out of the cities or to start appealing to republican voters. That's the reason that 63 of the state’s 99 state Assembly districts went republican. Literally, there is no way in WI to draw lines that would be equal for democrats simply because of where they live. That's also why you guys can get 50% of the vote and lose so many districts.
You have made an error in your assessment. Granting the premise that things are they way you've put them (which they aren't) that wouldn't be equal. It would be indicative of the escalation of partisan bigotry.
I think the key is that the groups have stopped being about governing. Basically if its good for the goose its good for the gander doesn't qualify anymore. However, this isn't the first time this has happened in US politics, just the most recent.
Gerrymandering benefits Republicans across the nation. In WI the issue is less gerrymandering (still an issue) but more of how Republicans have rammed through legislation to strip power from the new elected Democrats as well as pushing through 82 appointments — 30 of which had no public hearing meaning they are illegally filled. Why can’t you people win on votes? Should tell you something about your ideology when the only people that back it are largely uneducated rural voters.
They did win on votes, the things you listed have no bearing on the election. Changing the power of the assembly and pushing through appointments are not cheating the election in any way. They are the results of winning an election and if you don't like it then have the democrats switch it back.
The part where you assumed I'd regard cessation of meaningful investigations as equal to things like alleged "openly stealing elections by voter manipulation and gerrymandering" as you put it.
I agree with Spooky on this, because the GOP won the assembly. Let the Dems get creative to change it back, if they can.
