Federal Prosecutors ‘Concluded that President of the United States Committed a Felony’

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  1. rahl

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    my apologies. I misread your post.

    agreed
     
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    So he paid them because of his campaign. Thanks for agreeing.
     
  3. TomFitz

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    Which is irrelevant, and doesn't have any real content anyway.

    So, I'll interpret it to mean that you know that your argument was bogus and you've got nothing.
     
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    What? Obama didn't know but Trump did? And absurd to characterize payments to porn stars to shut up as a campaign contribution. They tried that with John Edwards and it was thrown out of court.
     
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    Then where is the indictment?
     
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    If conservatives don't want whores to talk about how small your penis is or that it's a flat tire keep it in your pants. Problem solved.
     
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    No "collusion" has been shown, let alone that it's illegal.

    “I've never heard the term ‘collusion’ used in the way it's been used in our world over the last couple years before that... I don't know of a crime that involves collusion.” - James Comey

    In other words, you're trying to save your argument in spite of that there are no charges. That's pretty much what I expected.
     
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    If Comey doesn't know of a crime of "collusion," why would the FBI investigate a non-existent crime?
     
  11. Empress

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    Political ties matter. You're looking past a Democrat-appointed DOJ leadership that refused to file according to existing laws regarding gross mishandling of classified information. Turns out Obama was even sending emails to that unsecured email address and I'm sure that had a part in her skating off scot-free.

    The average person would not be so exempt.
     
  12. Jonsa

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    you honestly think there is equivalency between mishandling of emails and conspiracy to pay slut hush money?

    Lyin' Cheatin' Corrupt Donnie, lowering the bar of American Greatness at home and around the world. be proud.
     
  13. Empress

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    Oh no there's no equivalency at all: One the FBI said happened and the other they haven't.

    Can you direct us to the federal law that says "paying a slut to shut up" is illegal?
     
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    You don't get it. An ordinary citizen - okay sleazy but legal. A candidate running for President in the end days of his campaign after the release of the infamous pussygate tape? Covering up ones sleaze with hidden payments and third party "cons" would potentially derail his closing campaign.

    The rubes will insist he did nothing wrong. Guess that kind of behavior by the president of the united states is now acceptable.

    Lyin' cheatin' corrupt Donnie, lowering the bar on American Greatness at home and around the world.
     
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    OK So you falsely tried to equate a "sleazy but legal" payout with a woman who was Secretary of State who had a private email server in a guy's toilet in Denver who was using it illegally for classified information.

    You actually think a legal sex scandal is an equivalent to a Secretary of State leaving vulnerable tens of thousands of government documents?

    You're desperately reaching for any little turd ball you can sling at Trump and you're making a complete ass out of yourself in the process.
     
  16. MrTLegal

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    It was not thrown out. The jury was hung. His political career and reputation was ruined regardless of whether a jury reached a unanimous verdict. I hope the same happens - at a minimum - to trump.

    And yes - trump knew. That was why he directed his attorney to set up a shell corporation and to pay with cash.
     
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    If he were not the president, he would have been indicted already.
     
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    "I think in terms of conspiracy or aiding and abetting.”

    - James Comey

    The term "collusion" was always a shorthand for laymen to wrap their heads around the sheer volume and variety of potential illegal behavior.

    No, I just dont believe that i am talking to a rational person.
     
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    The idea was always that Trump was in some way complicit with the hacking of the DNC and defrauded the election..
     
  20. MrTLegal

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    Well...he did publicly call for Russian hackers to meddle in the 2016 election and then, the next day, russian state actors hacked for the first time. So yea, that was a justifiable avenue for investigation.

    But it was not the only one.
     
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    Seems at the moment the only line of investigation is that he made payments through Cohen to protect his marriage and at a stretch this violates campaign finance law.
     
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    Of course in Trump's case (since he has no sense of Personal Character, Honesty, or Shame) being DISGRACED (and having his Reputation Ruined) wouldn't even bother him.

    And speaking of Trump's "Reputation"?

    You can't lose what you never had.:salute:
     
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    It doesn't. Cohen's guilty plea is binding on him, not on Trump. Campaign law says THE purpose of the contribution has to be to influence the election, not A purpose. Trump can easily demonstrate saving his family knowledge of this was the purpose.
     
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    He was not, but had every right to inquire about the emails once they were taken. An honest press would do no less.

    Did Hillary defraud the election when CNN fed her debate questions, or she cheated Bernie out of the nomination?
     
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