Trump is abruptly threatening to veto the spending bill and force a government shutdown over the bor

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  1. ibobbrob

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    Did you watch the interview with the author? The book might portray Trump as something that he isn't. He did indeed personally attack and denigrate his RP opponents since that is all he had--a cover-up for his lack of knowledge about the issues. So he viciously attacks his critics. So what? Is that debating or negotiating? No. He "knows more than the generals". He is inexperienced and
    incompetent and "chaos" is his middle name.
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    Anyone interested in picking up the Legos can hop down to FL and ask for help. I am sure Trump will be very receptive.
    Especially after a few rounds of golf.
     
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    Classic temper tantrum.
     
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    Trump seems pretty relaxed to me. The Big Government is not his baby. ;-)
     
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    If the author claims that he polished Trump's image he is being less than honest. The book is a rather harsh depiction of Trump's personality and behavior. It is very revealing and not very flattering. It does show how Trump successfully overcomes his opposition. His political opponents should have read it and taken it to heart. They still might have lost, but they would not have been so surprised.

    IMO, the best strategy for dealing with Trump is to find some way to be on his side. For instance, prison reform. More of that - less silly hysterics about Russia and sex scandals.
     
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    There’s a baby in the room, but it’s not the government.
     
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    Actually journalist Tony Schwartz wrote the book, his name is on the cover along with Trump's. Ghostwriter Tony Schwartz spent nearly a year inside Trump Tower with Trump during the process.

    Schwartz told The New Yorker that he had written most of Trump's 1987 book as a ghostwriter. Trump has denied that claim and said the pair worked as a team. Tim O’Brien, a biographer who has written about Trump, also remarked,
    “President Trump didn’t write any of his books,” the author tweeted Tuesday. “Ghostwriters on all of them.”
     
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    That kind of thinking has worked so well for Trump's opponents. ;-)
     
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    Having a baby in charge hasn’t been working great for anyone though.
     
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    Who besides government has nonessential employees. Shut it down and fire some dead weight.
     
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    Stop wasting my time

    Its a white house comments line and I think trump is getting the message
     
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    I agree completely

    The stupip political consultants are convinced they can get away with not representing the voters who elect republicans and I think they are wrong
     
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    More like babies.

    Must be either Schumer or Pelosi, who claimed the President didn't have the votes in the House to fund the Wall.

    Wonder who is assigned to change their nappies and dry their runny noses?

    Wonder what Schumer is going to do now that the shutdown, if there is one, will be his?

    Nuclear Option is being floated, which may solve Schumer's problem.
     
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    I declared him dead two days ago after he indicated he would not fight for the wall

    And he was until he got his spine back
     
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    I think the rebubs are terrified of a government shutdown

    But unless McConnel suspends the filibuster rule in the senate the democrats will hold the cards

    They meaning dems want a government shutdown and I think they will get it
     
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    You’re right, I’m just taking the piss.

    I do still think a public comment hotline will have zero influence.
     
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    Trump is already claiming ownership of the shutdown if it happens. No amount of spin will place it on Schumer with any credibility.

    And the nuclear options would be a foolish thing to do on such a massively unpopular endeavor. It’ll be a great way for the GOP to own every ounce of responsibility for Trump’s money pit. Not to mention it’ll set an even stronger precedence for forcing through unpopular hyper-partisan policies.
     
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    Unfortunately Mc Connel doesn't have the balls for that
     
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    McConnel cant retreat into his turtle shell this time and let schumer run the senate

    The danger is not going away and he will have to act
     
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    Trump has already claimed he wants the shutdown. He’ll own it if it happens. Now that it’s actually here you sound nervous about it, and you’re now trying to shift blame to the Dems. The shutdown will be on the right, and the right only.
     
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    No. You see, Libs can't get with trying to take things out of context.

    There is this pesky thing called transcripts and video that will always destroy that manipulation and deceit they and their media ministries perform by the hour.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...e-between-trump-pelosi-and-schumer-2018-12-11

    Laughable excerpts:

    HOUSE SPEAKER-DESIGNATE PELOSI: Mr. President, let me -- let me just say one thing. The fact is you do not have the votes in the House.

    ________

    SENATE MINORITY LEADER SCHUMER: That is exactly right. You don’t have the votes in the House.

    ________

    :roflol:
     
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    They are not voters - they are a fan base

    Voters actually think about the issues and vote for what they want to see the government do

    Fans vote for personalities and will go along no matter what the person does
     
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    Did I miss the part where Trump didn’t claim full ownership of the potential shutdown?
     
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    Apparently. Likely because you rely on the context fed to you from the media ministry the left operates.

    In context, Pelosi and Schumer both claimed the President didn't have the votes in the House (transcript proves that), and said with out the House approval, the shutdown would be on the President. And the President said fine, he'd take the heat if that was the case.

    Well guess what?

    Check Mate Chuck and Nancy.

    Schumer's Shutdown is possible.

    (You should read the full transcript, rather than the edited snippets the Ministry releases for your consumption)
     
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    So Trump isn’t claiming responsibility?
     
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