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American Legion Joins VFW Call for Congressional Investigation of Israel Attack on USS Liberty

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  1. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again the Israelis claimed, "inform immediately the President of the Sec. Co. that Israel is now engaged in repelling Egyptian land and air forces." that was a lie, stop deflecting.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Utter drivel, she lied about being punched at that time. Full Stop.
     
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    Exaggeration is not a lie.

    Do you really think Israel attacked Egypt just for the hell of it?
     
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    Incredible "exaggeration is not a lie", just unbelievable. Are you for real?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is hard to understand how you can possibly claim eye witness evidence is not evidence.
     
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    Want me to go to the dictionary for you?
     
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    If you want I can amend my position to be more clear:

    "Eyewitness accounts cannot and should not be considered the definitive truth of an event without being collaborated by independent supporting evidence"
     
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    Oh please do!
     
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    Dayton3, Jan 10, 2019
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    NO NO NO, you stated eye witness evidence was NO EVIDENCE. Now stop making things up.
     
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    I exaggerated. See how that works?
     
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    So you lied, Was it a dictionary? NO. see how it works!
     
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    It serves the same purpose. More on target source wise than the drivel you and Grau have been serving up.
     
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    Show me which sources of mine you contest.
     
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    Again to recap, we have an Israli apologist who states that,
    "inform immediately the President of the Sec. Co. that Israel is now engaged in repelling Egyptian land and air forces."
    When there are no Egyptian land or air forces being repelled the above statement is not a lie.
    The eye witness accounts of American sailors are "no evidence"
     
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    Those in posts #242 and #113 off hand.
     
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    How many separate eye witnesses do you need for it to be collaborated in your world?
     
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    No number of eye witnesses would I consider "collaboration".

    Some of the Liberty crew say that the ship was flying a the U.S. flag and by inference that it was visible to the Israeli pilots.

    If gun camera footage from one of the Israeli aircraft involved in the attack showed the U.S. flag clearly visible then I would concede that the statements by the crew of the Liberty in regards to the flag are in fact truthful and accurate.
     
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    So you contest the Liberty veterans website and a Jewish news site with a prominent Jewish Historian, in fact you say they are less reliable than suggesting Wikipedia is a dictionary. Please stop this continual falsification.
    Are you antisemetic?
     
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    No, remember you are saying that there is NO EVIDENCE, stop deflecting.
     
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    Get this, 1000 people all say they watched a football match, but you would not consider that evidence of the football match, just priceless!
     
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    The deliberate attack on the USS Liberty is equally well documented by the declassified tape recordings but most of all do you really think that the Israelis could study a clearly marked ship with an obvious American flag for 8 hours & not recognize their target?

    What about the ethical Israeli pilot who refused to take place in the massacre & was arrested?

    Finally, you never answered my question:
    "Why were US Fighter Jets recalled a second time?
     
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    It is one in the morning UK, I am going to bed, best of luck arguing with someone who says a lie is not a lie Grau!:eyepopping:
     
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    I answered your question. You simply ignored it.

    The Israeli pilot might've been mistaken about what he saw and his reaction to it.

    There is a considerable gap (hours) from when the Liberty was observed from the air and when it came under attack. I've explained how the Israelis considered the identification of Liberty to be out of date and thus as far as they were concerned the Liberty had left the area and this was in fact a different unidentified ship.
     
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