McConnell blocks Senate Democrats' move to reopen government

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  1. Athelite

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    There's just so much similarities between a Russian bot and a conservative US resident.
     
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    False dichotomy. The solution to crime is not to withhold pay from federal workers.
     
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    He’s free to ask. He took 2 years to shut down the govt over it. 2 years to do an Oval Office address about it.
     
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    "Partisan bills" shouldn't exist...
     
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    Opening the government is not making a law. It is doing their job.
     
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    That's a false choice and you know it. 250 miles of steel slats will not stop people from dying.

    And then you have to understand that you are embracing actual deaths like those which have taken place in national parks since the shutdown or the actual deaths that will result from the lack of food inspections or the actual deaths that will result from people not getting their food stamps.
     
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    Don't fling your dishonesty in other people's faces unless you're willing to get it flung back in your own, Grasshopper.
     
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    I do not need, nor do I want, any type of education from someone like you.
     
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    They wrote a bill and passed it in the hopes of making a law. It is partisan. It won't become a law. You must have ignored what I said earlier. I don't argue that writing and passing bills is their job. But the reality is that partisan bills won't happen for a while.
     
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    I agree with that 100%. Unfortunately many bills are partisan, nevertheless.
     
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    This is a bill which passed the Senate with ~93 votes. That is bipartisan.
     
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    Why is this news? He has made it perfectly clear for weeks now that he won't have a vote unless there is an agreement between the Dems and President. A vote is pointless if the POTUS won't sign it. The Dems continue to refuse to compromise with the President. The Dems continue to waste valuable time
     
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    The federal government has be dysfunctional since the 1960's. It wasn't even designed that way.
     
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    a wall stops none of that
     
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    No surprises here, Mitch the B***h is up to his old tricks.
     
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    If it were the same and were bipartisan, McConnell would put it to a vote.
     
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    It was and it was, he did not.
     
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    So you actually think we are having a death a day due to the shutdown? Fascinating.
     
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    Wrong. There is an important point if both houses of Congress vote to re-open the government, and the president vetoes that bill.

    McConnell is running interference for Trump. That is not his job. His job should be to pass legislation that he thinks is in the best interest of the country. The senate passed a spending bill with bipartisan support before Christmas. The House has passed the same bill now. It is irresponsible for McConnell not to allow a vote on it again.
     
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    So do you.

    Thoughts & Prayers.
     
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    Thoughts & Prayers
     
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    Both houses voted 4 week ago and he vetoed: McConnell made it clear...get an agreeement.
     
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    No, he never vetoed.
    Senate passed a bipartisan bill with $1.6 billion in funding for border security.
    House passed a partisan Republican bill with funding for the wall.
    The bills were different and never reconciled, so nothing ever landed on Trump's desk to sign or veto.

    Now the House has passed pretty much exactly the same bill that the Senate passed in December. It is legitimate to ask the Senate to vote again on something that they passed just a month ago.

    Congress is a co-equal branch of government to the presidency. Not subservient. If Congress votes to re-open government (which is highly likely, if McConnell allowed a vote), Trump would have to make a decision: keep the government shut down, without any chance of blaming anyone else for the shutdown, or bite his tongue and sign the bill.
     
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    Well that's a pretty silly take.

    Trump has promised to veto any bill that does not help protect Americans with a border wall/barrier. McConnell said that he would not put a bill up for a vote that Trump would surely veto. Neither the House or Senate could possibly override a veto.

    Democrats in the House knew this when they sent the "Dead on Arrival" Bill to the Senate.

    The House bill was nothing but a political stunt.
     
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    The House is not a co-equal branch. The House is in this case equal to the Senate, not the POTUS. McConnell not bringing up Pelosi's bill is within his power.
     
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