Seven Year Old Girl Dies in Custody at the Border

That guy just doesn’t understand - if you are a parent and your child is seriously ill you don’t drag the kid through a desert - you stop and seek immediate help wherever you are. The fact that the father didn’t do that is very telling to anyone who has kids. The blame is on the father - 100%.

 

I would list him as the alleged father

Its quite possible he bought the girl and brought her north to help him get across the border easier

He certainly did not seem to care what happened to her after getting here

 

Neither he nor the mother attended the funeral. That pretty much sums it up.

 

Where was she buried?

And what happens to him?

He should be sent back to mexico

 

Here is the article on the funeral.
https://nypost.com/2018/12/26/jakel...ht-for-funeral-after-girl-dies-in-us-custody/

 

The dirtbag is still in the US, huh?

His anchor child is dead so he should be deported

 

I noted this long ago, the BP didn't conduct a "medical check", they conducted an "initial screening", look back at the record, check your sources. This claim the "quacks" at the BP conducted some sort of "medical check" but were so derelict, incompetent or negligent, they could not detect the detainee examined was just hours from death -is without basis in fact. All we actually know about the "initial screening" (which the BP acknowledges was conducted) is that it involved asking those detained whether they were sick or injured and then getting them to indicate so on a form which was translated to Spanish, and that this child's father answered these questions and submitted that form indicating the girl was in fine health. This is all we really know, we've got no evidence doctors or healthcare professionals of any sort medically examined any of the 164 illegal immigrants the 4 BP agents stopped 90 miles from the border in a remote area of the desert at 10PM.

 

There is nothing reasonable about giving a young child who is in your care a health check by somebody who is not qualified to give one, and than to use the wrong conclusion of that health check to just do nothing while the child slowly dies while still in your care.

 

There was no adequate care.

 

That initial screening revealed no evidence of health issues, while we all agree that her health must have been really poor if she died from malnutrition and dehydration. You're just absolutely not being honest about this.

 

Was the minor in question taken to a medical care facility when it was realized there was a significant problem?

If so, then adequate medical care was provided. But "adequate" does not mean either immediate or infallible. The fact the minor in question was too far gone to be helped is not the fault of the united states government.

 

Except such is not the case. The minor in question died from complications related to sepsis, as has been hammered out significantly in the previous discussions on this topic. The minor in question died due to picking up an infection on the journey to the united states, it was left untreated and allowed to spread unchecked during the course of the journey, and by the time the caravan arrived in the united states it was already far too late for anything to be done.

 

so what would have happened if they had not been found and picked up by that bus? she would have died out in the desert and we would never have known. only a irresponsible parent would put their child through what the dad did. he should be charged with child endangerment. Mexico is not dangerous and they could have stayed there. no reason to put your child's life at jeopardy.

BP are not doctors nor should they have to be.

she did receive medical treatment which we all had to pay for. just as we pay for all their medical treatment they need when they get into our country illegally. I am so sick of this.

 

The problem was a bad medical check, that concluded that she was fine,... while we all know she wasn't. Subsequently they let her suffer for 8 more hours while every second counts. I said this often enough to you.

 

We already discussed this. And I proved that dehydration leads to blood poisoning, and the symptoms that lead to getting a sepsis shock. And you disputed that with arguments about hypothermia -which has nothing to do with it-. And you didn't even know it lead to blood poisoning. Hence my argument still stands.

 

it doesn't really matter what she died of. she was lucky to get any medical care at all. it is still her parents fault for exposing her to such danger as they did.

not the US fault they break the law and enter without permission, then something bad happens. she received medical care, didn't make it. again, she would never have made it at all had she not been taken into custody.

 

The father should be charged with a crime. He could have sought asylum in Mexico but chose to drag his daughter to the US and she died as a result. Manslaughter sounds appropriate.

 

Then the accusation on the part of yourself is that the united states government murdered the minor in question.

Repeating the same falsehood over and over does not make it anymore factually correct than the first time it was presented for consideration.

 

Sepsis is not caused by dehydration. A person, regardless of location, is not walking around with a body full of serious infections that are held at bay merely by the consumption of adequate amounts of water. Biology simply does not work that way.

 

Why is the father still in the US?
He freely admitted he crossed into the US illegally because he was looking for a better life, not fleeing government persecution.

 

Sepsis shock is. And I did prove that with the official definition. Your attempts to dispute that by flinging in hypothermia was pathetic, while you were totally unaware that you die from blood poisoning when you're dehydrated. You never looked anything up. You just made up a conclusion based on your ignorant opinion.

 

What is not understood on the part of yourself is that septic shock cannot come about and develop unless the afflicted individual is already suffering from sepsis prior, meaning they have contracted an infection that has allowed to spread unchecked, and provoked a wide range of symptoms. The dehydration would ultimately have to be a side effect of the sepsis itself, meaning the dehydration does not actually cause anything to develop freely on its own. Meaning ultimately that the dehydration did not kill the minor in question.

 

I think one would need to figure out what a BP "initial screening" that "revealed no evidence of health issues" involved. It has been reported this involved submitting a form declaring whether one suffered from any disease or injury, that the questions were in English translated to Spanish and that the child's father signed such a form saying his daughter suffered none. Nothing else has been reported on this "initial screening".

I’ve searched, but can’t find this form named “I-779” but would figure it must be fairly simple considering it is issued to possibly illiterate illegal aliens. I surmise the form seeks health information and figure it likely features spaces for personal identification, asks applicant to check if he suffers a listing of likely contagious conditions or from any injury, maybe includes boxes to check for recent vomiting, bleeding, fever…

I expect this child was not individually screened since she was only 7 years old and was with her father, likely her answers are his. I also figure that with 164 illegal aliens to question and just 4 BP agents, even if all agents applied themselves to this “initial screening” and the completion of the forms it would be a perfunctory process, something like “unless you’re sick, bleeding, have a fever or are vomiting, check “no” for the list of conditions, put your name, date of birth and today’s date, and sign” (each agent has to “initially screen” about forty people). I suppose they give each illegal alien a quick glance and unless they see blood or some obvious injury just take the form. I think this is a more realistic scenario than imagining BP agents in screened off sections taking and recording blood samples, monitoring blood pressure and temperature. The child’s father said his daughter was fine, no injury or ailment, they took the form, wrote her down on a list of bus passengers.

According to the BP they came across these illegal aliens at about 9:15 p.m. at a very remote location and then

I don’t know of the symptoms evident for one suffering from what killed this child, upthread it was said just pinching the skin shows telltale signs, but I’ve also read diagnosis requires monitoring blood pressure and blood tests for acids.

So the idea the child died from lack of water or food can be dismissed out of hand.

Given the fact this child died within hours of being caught, one would expect evident symptoms, but we’ve no reporting on these, can her condition develop suddenly?

The bus took 2 hours and twenty minutes to reach this group. The BP loaded it up with unaccompanied minors and sent it back to base. There’s no record of any health developments for the child, presumably she was sleeping under her father’s watchful eye.

I’d surmise it took about 45 minutes (from 9:15 to 10 p.m.) for the 4 agents to screen the 164 illegal aliens and then they called for a bus (that’s each agent “initially screening” each illegal alien for 1 minute -no health issues in any of them).

The unaccompanied minors were delivered about two hours later and then the bus turned around to return for another bunch. The bus got back at 4 a.m. It took about an hour to load the bus with the second batch of illegal aliens and

Now, for the first time, we have a qualified BP “medical technician” on the scene, we know at least he has a thermometer to record the child’s temperature.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/speeches-and-statements/statement-us-customs-and-border-protection-death-seven-year-old

 

Dude. We've been through this and all the symptoms that are needed for sepsis, are caused by dehydration. In essence you ruled out that dehydration causes a deadly form blood poisoning ... and you were just wrong about that. And in essence it doesn't really matter even. The US took that girl in THEIR care and THEY gave her a medical check preformed by THEIR OWN people. A medical check THEY said she passed, while she could not. Using THEIR wrong conclusion of THEIR child caused that THEY did not do anything for 8 hours while every second was counting. And with that, THEY failed to give her a reasonable amount of care.... that lead to the death of a child.

 

And THAT is not true. It reads....
They added that an initial screening showed no evidence of health problems and that her father had signed a form indicating she was in good health.
https://www.businessinsider.nl/jake...s-detainment-2018-12/?international=true&r=US

They added that an initial screening showed no evidence of health problems, and that her father had signed a form indicating she was in good health.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...in-caal-family-us-border-patrol-a8685541.html

An initial screening allegedly showed no evidence of health problems and Jakelin's father signed a form indicating she was in good health.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ed-Border-Patrol-custody-demands-answers.html


You're turning this into that the initial screening showed no evidence of health problems because her father signed a form. That's just not true. And your initial post to me there was no medical check at all, while there was,... really shows ill intent in your posts in not having a honest discussion.