Seven Year Old Girl Dies in Custody at the Border

Then where does the sodium in the blood actually come from? The human body does not produce sodium, so how does it enter the bloodstream?

Classifying someone as being in good health simply because they are not bleeding, and do not possess any visible injuries, does not amount to a medical test.

Septic shock cannot develop unless the individual is already suffering from sepsis, meaning their system has already been ravaged by an untreated infection. Dehydration plays no part in that untreated infection, nor in the condition of sepsis.

It was not cited that dehydration caused the minor in question to die, however.

 

I don't care. I sourced that dehydration causes high sodium levels in the bloodstream.
You're in no position that you opinion matters more than my source, with no source to back it up.
You're no expert.

You go source that the medical test only looks if somebody is bleeding.

You sourced "Sepsis occurs when the body's response to these chemicals is out of balance"
And the body is not in chemical balance when you're overdosing on natrium in your bloodstream.... obviously.

You loose.

 

The very fact you do not care undermines all legitimacy on the position of yourself, as well as the participation on the part of yourself in this discussion. You are doing nothing but complaining for the sake of complaining, because you do not have anything better to do with your time. Thus you are in violation of established forum rules.

What is the medical background possessed on the part of yourself, that elevates your position above that of all others present?

The claim that a medical check was performed has been made on the part of yourself. Therefore it is the obligation of yourself to prove a medical check actually was performed rather than a non-medical initial screening.

So now the argument on the part of yourself is that the minor in question developed sepsis due to consuming high quantities of sodium-rich food prior to being taken into custody by the border patrol, was subsequently not provided with water to flush the sodium out of her system, and it was the sodium from her diet that ultimately led to her becoming ill and dying.

 

negative. You are arguing against my source without a source.
And I don't care about your whining opinion if you can not found it on a source.
Hence my source stands: dehydration causes high sodium levels in the bloodstream

If you got doubts about the medical check, than you go look it up, source it and make an argument. That is how it works.

And I sourced it was a medical check.

negative... it is dehydration that causes high quantities of sodium. You're making crap up here that she was eating a extreme high sodium rich food. That story is NOWHERE to be found. The part that she was dehydrated is mentioned by the US authorities.

 

Except for the simple fact that no source was actually presented on the part of yourself.

Did the minor in question possess an elevated level of sodium in her bloodstream at the time of her death? A level that has been indicated by autopsy reports?

If not, then the claim on the part of yourself is not only invalid, it is also irrelevant.

The only supposed "source" on the part of yourself about a medical check being performed, are the claims of border patrol. The same source claiming that the minor in question was denied food and water during the journey to the united states, which you claim did not occur. You are arguing against the credibility of your own source.

Media outlets repeating a factually-deficient claim is not the same thing as sourcing an argument.

Then the claim on the part of yourself is going right back to the belief that the human body actually produces sodium all on its own, and can produce toxic levels, all without the need of food intake.

The same authorities that stated the minor in question was denied food and water during the journey to the united states?

 

I sourced it again in post 1586, and you're just trolling around.

Again, nobody mentioned she took in high level of sodium, the US authorities did name she was dehydrated.
It's up to you to get some sources to prove your arguments. So far you're just coming up with
if you can not disprove my highly unlikely conspiracy theory than you must take it into account.
And it doesn't work like that, buddy.

Are you calling the US authorities a bunch of liars, because you disagree with them?
pathetic.

You go find a source that disputes their claim.

You're making the retarded error that when it says "high levels of sodium ions in the blood" that your entire aint all blood, so the sodium could have been anywhere else in your body and due to dehydration start to concentrate in your blood.

 

The post number in question was made on the part of myself. Therefore no source was actually cited on the part of yourself.

Then by all means, forward such to the forum staff for review of possible infractions.

Then the discussion about sodium poisoning is nothing more than an effort at derailing the discussion. Cease it immediately.

Which would have developed from the fever that results from an individual developing sepsis due to contracting an infection that is left untreated and allowed to spread.

The only argument present on the part of myself is that it is yourself who does not have any clue what is presently being discussed. The entire position on the part of yourself is one of hate and misplaced blame.

No medical check was performed on the individual members of the caravan once they were taken into custody. Each individual members was seen for, at the very most, one minute of time, before they were passed on for the next available caravan member. No medical check could be performed in that length of time. Therefore no medical check was actually performed.

The laws of physics dispute their factually deficient claims.

Then if it is being claimed on the part of yourself that the minor in question died from sodium poisoning rather than sepsis, for such a development to actually occur, the minor in question would have needed to consume a significant quantity of food with an exceedingly high level of sodium before the caravan was taken into custody.

Which narrative is it that is being supported on the part of yourself? Did the minor in question die due to sepsis, or due to sodium poisoning? It is either one or the other, it cannot be both. Pick the one, drop the other, and do not speak of the dropped narrative again.

 

its not
Seven Year Old Girl Dies in Custody at the Border
you're just trolling

Dehydration is part of this discussion, and so is sodium poisoning since that chemical imbalance is what you get when being dehydrated. It leads to sepsis shock and death. I sourced all of that. You're just trolling around by disputing my sources with nothing to back it all up.

Says the person who did not know what dehydration causes a month after the start of this discussion. What a joke to say that I don't have a clue.

I put up 3 sources that there was. You have not disproved this with any source.

I asked for a source, and you failed to do to that.
So my argument stands, yours doesn't.
That is how it works

You sourced yourself that sepsis is a chemical imbalance. Sodium poisoning is exactly that.
You loose.

 

Only insofar that the dehydration was caused by the fever that came about from the minor in question developing sepsis from an untreated infection that was allowed to spread during the journey to the united states, leaving her on the verge of death by the time the caravan arrived in the united states.

Are all chemical imbalances in the human body equal? Does mental illness cause a person to develop sepsis since they are also tied to physical chemical imbalances?

Sepsis is the condition that results in an untreated infection in the body. Septic shock is what develops when sepsis is left untreated and allowed to spread. They are related, but they are not the same thing. Nor do they have anything to do with sodium poisoning.

Dehydration does not cause a person to develop sepsis. Nor does dehydration cause the human body to begin producing toxic levels of sodium.

The released timeline of events that transpired that night shows all one hundred and sixty four members of the caravan of illegal immigrants were seen and processed by four border patrol agents in a span of forty five minutes. That is forty one individuals for each border patrol agent, meaning that, at best, each member of the caravan was seen for exactly one minute of time before they were passed on.

Do tell everyone present, precisely what sort of medical tests can be performed within the span of one minute.

False. Sepsis is caused by an infection, as has been maintained on the part of myself since the beginning of this entire discussion.

A great many things occurring in the body are the result of chemical imbalances, but not all chemical imbalances are the same. The chemical imbalance that results in sepsis developing into septic shock, is not the same type of chemical imbalances that lead to one being hungry.

 

You go source she had an untreated infection, that caused a fever, which caused dehydration....
While in essence, the FACT remains that she should not have passed that medical test if THAT state.
That is where the US authorities failed to provide adequate care.

I sourced that the sodium chemical imbalance is a deadly one.

You sourced it had to do with a chemical imbalance.

I sourced dehydration caused high level of sodium to be in your blood.
You got nothing to dispute this.
High sodium in your blood is a chemical and deadly imbalance.
Sepsis is about a chemical imbalance.

 

The only citation needed to prove the above claim is the fact the minor in question was suffering from sepsis.

Exactly what medical test can be performed in the time frame of no more than sixty seconds? Elaborate on such. Be specific.

Is it the one and only chemical imbalance that ultimately did lead to the minor in question dying?

Are all chemical balances in the human body equal? It is a yes or no question, so either answer yes or no.

Is sodium poisoning the exact same thing as sepsis?

If not, then the argument and claims on the part of yourself is devoid of legitimacy.

 

I proved dehydration leads to a deadly chemical imbalance, that causes sepsis/sepsis shock.

You go look it up, make an argument and source it.
I'm not here to be interrogated with troll questions.

 

Not all chemical imbalances within the human body are the same, or even similar to one another. Sodium poisoning is not the same type of chemical imbalance as septic shock.

If you have no desire to answer legitimate questions being presented in response to the nonsense propagated on the part of yourself, then leave the discussion. No individual present cares to hear the continual screaming about how the united states government murdered an illegal alien who just happened to be a minor.

 

Sodium is a chemical, it's always in your blood. But when you have that much that it's deadly than it most certainly imbalanced. And this becomes just utterly stupid to deny that.

It's up to you to find your own answers for your questions, make an argument and publish the sourced. I'm not here to help you out.

 

First, the minor in question did not die from sodium poisoning, therefore it has no relevance to the discussion.

Second, a great many things cause chemical imbalances to develop. The consumption of a large quantity of water also causes a chemical imbalance in the human body, and can even cause internal drowning. It is most commonly known as hyponatremia.

https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/features/water-intoxication

Then ultimately what is the legitimate purpose of yourself on this forum? To scream and cry about perceived injustices in the world and ignore those who do not agree with the presentation?

 

The US authorities said she didn't drink for days or something. Hence dehydration is relevant, hence sodium poisoning is relevant.

To make and source my own arguments.

 

The same mentality as the human shields.
Put the kids at risk.

 

The united states authorities claimed the minor in question was denied both food and water for days during the journey. If she did not drink for days, it is logical to conclude that she did not eat for days either. Meaning there was no processing of sodium within the body that would lead to an increased level of sodium within the blood. Therefore, by the admission of yourself, sodium poisoning could not have actually occurred for the minor in question, meaning it did not play a factor in her death.

Which, once again, leads back to the initial factually deficient claim on the part of yourself about how being dehydrated caused her to develop sepsis.

Except such is not actually the case. You are not actually making your own arguments, but rather the arguments of other individuals, and acting as a mouthpiece for them. Rather than making your own arguments, you are becoming a shill for others.

 

This is just utterly stupid.
You die from dehydration first, not starvation.

whatever.

 

And the minor in question died due to sepsis, not from dehydration, hunger, or even sodium poisoning. The minor in question died due to child abuse stemming from the actions of the supposed father, dragging her across the nation of Mexico on a journey to the united states when she was in no condition to make such a journey in the first place, which resulted in her picking up an infection and developing sepsis along the way due to the sepsis going untreated, which allowed it to spread through her system to the point medical intervention was useless. She was on the verge of death by the time they arrived at the border of the united states, meaning nothing could be done for her.

 

Dehydration leads to sodium poisoning, that is a chemical imbalance, that leads to sepsis shock.
I proved all of that extensively.

 

False. Not merely factually incorrect, but outright false. Sodium poisoning does not cause a person to develop sepsis. The only thing that can actually cause a person to develop sepsis is picking up an infection that is left untreated and allowed to spread. A splinter in the skin, an abscessed tooth, walking barefoot through contaminated soil, even consuming contaminated water or food are all capable of causing an infection that will result in sepsis developing.

 

you yourself sourced sepsis is a chemical imbalance. I proved dehydration does that.
You did not even know that.
We've been over this.

 

Once again, false. Not merely factually incorrect, but outright false. It was cited that sepsis is caused by infection. It has nothing to do with a chemical imbalance in the body. A person does not develop sepsis due to poor dietary habits.

https://www.healthline.com/health/sepsis

Sepsis is a life-threatening illness caused by your body’s response to an infection.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sepsis/symptoms-causes/syc-20351214

Sepsis is a potentially life-threatening condition caused by the body's response to an infection.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/sepsis/causes/

Sepsis can be triggered by an infection in any part of the body.

https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/sepsis-septicemia-blood-infection#1

Sepsis is caused by your body’s defense system (immune system) working overtime to fight infection. It’s sometimes called septicemia.

https://www.nigms.nih.gov/education/Documents/Sepsis.pdf

Sepsis is a serious medical condition. It is caused by an overwhelming immune response to infection.

Every single article repeats the same point. Sepsis comes about due to an infection in the body. Sepsis has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with sodium levels in the blood, dehydration, or any other cause that has been cited on the part of yourself in an effort to make the death of the minor in question the fault of the border patrol agents.

 

stop lying. You sourced that it was. And you did it again...

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sepsis/symptoms-causes/syc-20351214
Sepsis occurs when the body's response to these chemicals is out of balance, triggering changes that can damage multiple organ systems.