No deal: Pelosi rejects Trump’s offer to legalize 'Dreamers' for wall money

A refresher course for the Trumpies of the Deal from 2018 that Trump Turned Down:

Bipartisan Senate proposal: In February 2018, a bipartisan group of senators hashed out a compromise proposal that would have provided $25 billion for border security over 10 years, starting with a $2.5 billion installment last year.

It also would have enabled about 1.8 million young immigrants to become citizens over a 10-to-12-year timeline, but it sought to bar them from sponsoring their parents from citizenship. Lawmakers believed it could have passed the GOP-held Senate had Mr. Trump endorsed it, but he opposed it, saying it didn’t do enough to curb legal immigration. The measure then failed in the Senate in a 54-45 vote.

It was never taken up by the House, which was then controlled by Republicans who worked on their own set of immigration bills.
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Trump blew it.

 

Marist Poll: Trump's Latino Support Jumps 19 Points

Marist Poll: Trump's Support Among Hispanics Jumps 19 Points Amid Shutdown

President Donald Trump's approval rating among Latinos shot up nearly 20 points from December to January in a new poll.
50 percent of Latinos support the job Trump is doing, a significant jump from the 31 percent who had the same answer in a December poll.
https://www.newsmax.com/us/latinos-hispanics-presidential-approval-ratings/2019/01/17/id/898717/

 

Wow!

What NEWS!

Congratulations!

That is the 1,000th Time that has been posted at PF!

Give them a MAGA Hat!

Oh, and now back into the actual topic:

Trump blew his chance at a deal last year, his latest proposal is a non-starter, and Trump (and the GOP)100% OWN the Shutdown.

Any questions?

 

Trump aint no dictator, he needs Pelosi and the dems to sign on. Look whos doing most of the talking, trying to cut deals, and get people to show up to meetings? Its Trump. Its the weaker party that does all the talking and convincing. Most Americans oppose the wall, want permanent amnesty for dreamers, and don't see the border in an emergency state, and blame Trump for the shutdown. Its not appropriate to hold the nation and dreamers hostage to get your policies passed. Reopen the government, and then let negotiations begin. However, Trump can't a normal spending bill without losing face, and the longer the government is shut, the more his chances of re-election dwindle. His best chance is a deal that is really good for democrats. I'd say 4 billion of general border security in exchange for permanent DACA for 1 million.

 

Trump is the one who took amnesty away from dreamers, and now he wants to hold them hostage for a pitiful 3 year extension? When you are losing public approval, you don't get to take hostages and make demands.

 

If dems love the dreamers they wanted to come here, and were previously willing to defend, they will compromise.

 

Dems care about acquiring power.

The dreamers, believe women, etc are just masks they hide behind.

 

I didn’t like Obama, I don’t know why you keep bringing him up, besides being a poor debate strategy maybe? Is your president so great you have to defend him off of a person that y’all felt was trying to destroy the country? Such high standards y’all have set for your party.

Most of your list is partisan hackery to push agenda, not to benifit America or Americans.
Especially not items to benifit humanity.

Several of your list are lies or things he had nothing to do with.

On the economy I fear his test is coming and I really hope he doesn’t fail.
Business leaders agree with me

You may think is a “win” for removed health and environmental regulations so companies can make more profit, future generations will look back on people with your mentality for the fools they are.

 

Dems rejected this...


Instead, dems be like....

 

Trumps achievements will benefit you, even if you hate em.

Thats how winners do.

 

That is to be seen I guess.
Presidents hard difficult to judge by immediate terms.

Good to see education was such a priority in your upbringing...

 

They're not interested in deals, they want absolute power.

 

Hold up, hold up, conservatives elect trump, thinking that Trump makes the "best deals" because he can sucker people into agreeing to things. Fast forward to today when Trump offers a "solution" to the impasse, and the solution is a "deal" where he offers temporary protection for three years to DACA recipients after being the executive that has tried to take away the protections in the first place? It doesn't even matter what he's asking for, if you're an intelligent person who is in Congress you have to turn down that deal or you're setting yourself up to go through the exact same theatrics in three years. This is mafia negotiating at its finest, and you don't ever fall into that trap.

 

Oh so you do understand that it takes two to tango, that TRUMP IS NOT A RUBBER-STAMPER, his constitutional responsibility, not just right is to veto a bill he finds lacking and the responsibility of the House represented by Pelosi is to amend the bill, negotiate with the president and seek compromise to make the bill acceptable to all parties involved.

And you're right, Trump is the one doing all the talking and negotiating so far, Nancy is missing in action, sabotaging the process and actually trying to skip the town while millions of federal employees can't pay their bills because of her political ambitions.

 

Stunt? Trump made an offer. Instead of coming up with a counter offer pelosi declined the offer before it was even officially made. Trump opened the door for her and she walked away taking the DACA illegals with her. If yiu were a DACA illegal, how would you feel about this ‘stunt?’

 

Its the lefty way.

Now its just that more people are seeing it.

 

If I was a dreamer I'd feel betrayed by democrats.

This type of response from dems could lead to Trump building the wall with emergency funding and the dreamers being deported. The govt could remain shut down the entire time.

 

Possibly. But Trump had already told them beforehand that he would not accept DACA, birthright citizenship, chain migration and the visa lottery. The Dems proposed it anyway and that's why it was rejected. The last three things btw are bad for our country. Obama's DACA on the other hand is, imo, a gem because it is wise and merciful. And I really wish that Pelosi had accepted Trumps proposal to extend it.

 

LOL....Trump is used to bullying people, but he won't bully anybody here. He didn't learn a thing the past two years.

 

They should've played ball, then strategized. They're not getting what they want straight out of the gate. Democrats are not interested in finding some position that might make everyone a little satisfied. They want it all, right now. Good luck with that.

 

That's sure how it looks to me. And probably to the DACA recipients as well.

 

Look, we don't decide on new proposals by taking the government hostage. If you want an immigration bill, do it like Obama did and try to get it passed though congress the normal way, and don't take away amnesty from dreamers to get some hostages. I honestly feel bad for Trump and you guys. Its obvious you guys are getting desperate and the longer this drags on, the worse Trump is going to look. The reason Trump is doing all the talking is because he is weak, and he is getting blamed for this and watching his chances of re-election fall. I kind of wish he had the chance to go back in time and hit the reset button so he wouldn't be in this impossible position. In this latest speech he looked so low-energy, and so desperate to please and be reasonable. Kind of reminds me of Obama when his Supreme Court nomination wasn't going to happen. Its a little sad.

 

Trump's approval is getting worse by the day, and so is his support within Congress and with the American public. They'll wait.

 

Yup, they're totally too stupid to remember that the GOP and Trump have been trying to strip away the protections since 2016. Totally.

 

The country is not being held hostage. That's just Pelosi speak. The country is actually doing very well. No one is negotiating with terrorists either. Pelosi could have been talking about immigration with the President rather than going off to Hawaii, Brussels or Afghanistan. Democrats have been for walls, or fences, in the past and every day more of them are now discovering that walls actually work.

Perhaps 'most Americans' are poorly informed but they'll probably know more before 2020 comes around.