No deal: Pelosi rejects Trump’s offer to legalize 'Dreamers' for wall money

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It isn't the "party of trump" or "republicans" for that mater. It is Mitch McConnell who wont allow it to come up for a vote because he now knows that there are enough republicans that have crossed the isle on re-opening the government to make make the bill veto-proof.

    This is solely on McConnell and Trump that are keeping the gubment closed. They have no other option if they want this bargaining chip ;)
     
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  2. Professor Peabody

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    Pelosi will need to answer to the Government Union base.
     
  3. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's $7,248,800 just for a bed per day. That's not counting health care or legal fees. $7,248,800 X 365 = $2,645,812,000 per year. They are costing us half of what Trump's asking for a wall PER YEAR not including health care and legal fees.
     
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    They did not sneak anywhere. They left as planned and can return immediately. Trump insists on a wall and wants to swap the wall for ending the shutdown.
    The Dems want the shutdown to end because it shouldn't have happened at all. Then they will sit down with Trump and negotiate
    border security funding and then trump can continue his trips to Mara Largo every weekend at 3.6 million a pop. This is what they have said and Trump has once again reinvented their intentions.
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, the Democrats want it to end because Government Workers Unions are in the fifth largest donors to the party.
     
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    And?

    Are you aware that he used that route to defend the border when Republicans refused to help?

    Are you aware that he issued fewer executive orders in his full 2 terms than Trump has issued in his 2 years?
     
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  7. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let them be the party of no. Its all good.

    Maybe Trump will mention it at the SOTU.
     
  8. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Republicans didn't refuse to help, Obama gutted his party with Obamacare (many were voted out specifically for this), and then when the Republicans came into power he refused to compromise, and just went to EO's.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Moderates and independents see those numbers are realize the dems are out of it.
     
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    You claimed Obama used a lot of EO's.

    I pointed out that you are just plain wrong. It's Trump that is off the rails - issuing them at 4X the rate of Obama.

    Regardless of how much Republicans would like to leave people sick, Dems are not going to slow down on finding ways to improve our healthcare coverage system.

    We're worse that most if not all other industrialized countries in terms of delivering healthcare to our citizeens.

    The fact that Republicans FIGHT to be worse is testimony to the immorality of the party as a whole.
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Earlier I said not just EO's, but also EA's/Presidential memorandums.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Barack_Obama

    Notice the spike after he lost the house in 2010.

    Here's Trumps list...
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_executive_actions_by_Donald_Trump


    As for your claim "Are you aware that he issued fewer executive orders in his full 2 terms than Trump has issued in his 2 years?"

    I think you will find the included links prove you wrong.
     
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    The Democrats Own the Shutdown

    The Democrats returned to the shutdown well one too many times.
     
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    Problem is you gave that opportunity away when the blue wave came in.
    So sad. To bad.
     
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    :roflol:

    I see and that's why her job approval is now higher than Trump's.
    Let me say that again. Pelosi, the hated House speaker is now more popular than Spanky.
    Oh, that's gotta hurt.:lol:
     
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    Can you link to this poll. I don't doubt you for a nano-second, but I just have to see this with my own eyes. Then I get the joy of sharing with every dinosaur I come across.
     
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    LMAO come on Steve, you as well as I do know that trump has taken credit for the shutdown; in fact he said he'd be proud to shut down the government. Now that he's seeing the damage it's doing to the country he's in a panic to get the government back up and running but his ego won't allow him to accede to the democrats demands since he doesn't want to lose face in front of his base. He's backed himself into a corner and doesn't know how to get out gracefully.
     
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    Typical response.
     
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    Obviously.

    The one thing that Trump's Supporters don't seem to grasp is this FACT:

    Trump OWNS The Shutdown 100%. Period.

    And no amount of Trumpies posting the opposite (time and time again) is going to change that.

    They can sit here all day and deny that the sun rises, or deny that there is water in the ocean.

    That doesn't change a thing.

    The Sun does rise.

    There is water in the ocean.

    Trump OWNS The Shutdown 100%. Period.

    The above 3 sentences are Undeniable FACTS.

    And, no amount of delusional RW "spin" can change that.

    You are correct, Trump has backed himself into a corner.

    And, unless Trump plans on The Shutdown lasting until 2021, Trump is the one that will have to cave in.
     
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    So Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi could make a decision this morning to open the government if they wanted to but that is not "owning"? How does that work?
     
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    Are you really, seriously concerned about the elections of 1888, 1876, and 1824? Have you lived through (and therefore been emotionally damaged by) these elections?

    Or are they merely an enhancement to your talking points?

    If you admit--tacitly, at least--that there is no realistic chance that the Electoral College might be abolished, why in the world would you continue to rail about it?

    I might as well declare that if only I had been born with wings, I could surely fly...

    Oh, I see.

    Simply because I do not believe that elections should be largely determined by large cities--and "flyover country" (specifically, most of the Midwest and the South) pretty much ignored--I must have an "agenda"; whereas someone who believes that the Framers did not know what they were doing, in establishing an Electoral College, does not have an agenda.

    Got it...

    There is no "and."

    Nor does there need to be.

    Okay.
     
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    STRANGE NEW RESPECT: After Displaying His Collaboration Credentials, Mitt Romney Is Urged by Liberals to Run for President.

    The last time the Left got this excited about Mitt Romney, it was because he was giving cancer to dogs while strapping binders full of women to the top of his station wagon in the fancy car elevator.
     
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    I see you don't know what your talking about.........

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

    Trump approval... 40.7%

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/nancy_pelosi_favorableunfavorable-6673.html

    Pelosi approval.....34.6%

    Laugh that one off funny man.
     
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    OMG you got me!
    I should have pointed out the spread.
    Very unpopular is the Trumper.

    upload_2019-1-23_17-4-1.png

    But given the trajectory she should zoom right past him.

    upload_2019-1-23_17-6-30.png
     

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