Blood-thirsty Democrats CHEER as NY Senate passes horrifying new bill legalizing infanticide

Did, no snark.
You only have sex for the purpose of procreation. Yet you masterbated. And how many times did you have sex with your, supposed spouse, that was not for procreation, but pleasure? Or a pent up sexual demand?

 

Known as the Reproductive Health Act, the measure replaces a 1970 state abortion law that was passed three years before Roe legalized abortion nationwide. It codifies many abortion rights laid out in Roe and other court rulings, including a provision permitting late-term abortions when a woman’s health is endangered. The previous law, which was in conflict with Roe and other subsequent abortion rulings, only permitted abortions after 24 weeks of pregnancy if a woman’s life was at risk.

https://www.apnews.com/d9c56babf0a14593bae804e841249937

Nothing there about "murdering babies for no good reason."

It's interesting how Conservatives oppose abortions, yet also oppose proper sex education, subsidized contraceptives, and social welfare programs aimed at helping children. Pro Life? More like Pro Forced Birth.

 

Dear God! Maybe you are actually this slow. Masturbation and sex are two different acts - the latter requires two parties and only is it the latter that results in pregnancy. Why you decided to bring up masturbation really is beyond me because it, literally, has nothing to do with anything at all.

No wonder you are confused, you cannot even spell it.

It really does not matter because with your spouse, a pregnancy is never an accident or a catastrophy - You are always prepared for it and it is part of the reason you are together in the first place.

 

Are you not forcing your opinion on another when your opinion is they are not a baby because they are only half way out of the womb so they can be killed without consequence?

 

Just reminding you that there's more to this decision than what has been deemed "legal" by politicians. Remember that sex with young boys and killing people for sport was once "legal" in ancient Rome and in more recent times it was "legal" to own slaves and muder native Americans in this country.
But yeah, your soul is your business.

 

Understood and agreed, but its still her uterus. Lets say you're 100% right about everything and now the only question is how to enforce the same abortion laws that failed long before the internet and abortion drugs existed. What now?

 

I'm specifically talking about late term abortion in general and partial birth abortion in particular. The first is arguably murder the second is most definitely so. The law stating "when the life of the mother is at risk" is far to vague for my comfort level to commit murder. Just as murder being ruled self defense requires evidence the perpetrators actions were justified so to should mudering a baby to save the life of a mother be a very high bar to hurdle.

 

I likely support abortions in those cases, where the life of the mother is in danger. You think the NY law restricts 3rd tri abortions to only those instances?

 

So you aren a human being until you have a SS#. When did science and medicine make this discovery?

 

Good point and a very good reason to leave that up to the pregnant woman, the family, and the doctor. The last thing we want is the government trying to be helpful at that crucial moment.

 

Not all doctors are scrupulous and not all pregnant women are of high moral character. We have laws to protect Innocents from violent crime and such a law is necessary for violent crime against these late term babies. We can't leave life and death decisions arbitrarily up to any MD or pregnant woman. At least we shouldn't.

 

I can see it now ....

"Hurry, Doctor - the mother is losing a dangerous amount of blood and you need to make a decision ..."
"Sorry, I may be the doctor here, but I've got to call my lawyer to make sure I don't end up in prison ..."

 

A clearly defined set of conditions that define threat to a mother's life would make that unnecessary.
The alternative which we presently have is "hurry quack doctor, I want this baby dead so I can get on with my crack whore life. Make up a reason my life's in danger and do it now!"

 

Given that hundreds of women die each year in the country during labor - EVERY pregnancy has the potential for death to the mother. And a back-alley abortionist is going to give a flying **** whether there is a law prohibiting it or not - so that's a worthless argument.

It's easy for you to stand on your high horse and proclaim you are the arbitrator in this - but YOU can never get pregnant. YOU never have to make that decision. YOU are totally immune. YOU will never be fired because you are pregnant. YOU will never suffer the complications of pregnancy. YOU will never have to deal with the uncertainty and fear of birthing a child.

Until men are willing to sign a contract that they will kill themselves if a woman they FORCE to carry and deliver dies on the delivery table - I will not entertain their bs ultimatums.

 

You have never been in an operating room during surgery, have you? There are no set rules that apply in every situation. Every uterus is different, every pelvis tipped differently. How do you design "a rule" for for a Zika baby that was never imaged in an ultrasound being delivered by a first-time mother?

How do you come up with a "rule" that handles a suicidal 14 year-old 3rd term pregnant mother who was raped by her father and sworn to secrecy? Sorry dear, you waited too long and now you have to carry to delivery ... we'll just strap you to the table for the next 3 months so you can't hurt yourself.

This "one size fits all" and "in perfect world" ideology of anti-choice people belongs in a fantasy world. Real life is messy and complicated.

 

The text of the bill explicitly states abortion can be performed up to 24 weeks after the start of the pregnancy, unless the pregnancy threatens the life or health of the mother.

It doesn’t say “just because”. These pro-life sites use a lot of hyperbole to “shock” their audience.

 

And there ya go. That's exactly why partial birth abortion laws as they now exist are a joke. Any delivery can arbitrarily be labeled a threat to the mother's health. There's extremely few circumstances where live delivery will be a threat to a woman's health while killing the baby will save the women's life. Those conditions need to be spelled out in a clear and concise manner.. We are talking about a human life here not a piece of **** to be casually flushed down the toilet.

 

Good points, but still far better than leaving life/death decisions up to the government. Comparing politicians to women of low character may need a thread of its own!

 

You are talking about abortion in general. I'm talking about late term abortion where a viable outside the womb baby is purposely killed when it could be a live delivery.

 

A competent group of doctors need to define the components of the law passed by congress in this situation.

 

We should eradicate all poor children. Their lives (in our opinion) have little value.

 

Honestly, men are the problem! Ask the Progressives!

What we should do is kill, er ummmm... I mean "abort" all male babies! Then, according to Cortez, or someone like her, we will have all the issues solved in 3-4 generations!

 

Dear god, you are really really older than you say or very very very very slow. Masterbation is sex with oneself.
Or maybe you feel embarrassed about making a claim that you only had sex for the sole purpose of procreation?

masturbation
[mas-ter-bey-shuh n]
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noun
the stimulation or manipulation of one's own genitals, especially to orgasm; sexual self-gratification.
the stimulation, by manual or other means exclusive of coitus, of another's genitals, especially to orgasm.

 

How is an opinion forced on someone?
And you're repeating the BS about killing the baby 1/2 way out of the womb is silly. This thread, OP, has suggested no such thing.

 

So these unscrupulous doctors you spoke of become competent the moment the government hires them to make laws that were ineffective long before the internet and abortion drugs? How do you propose we enforce these laws?