Brexit: The British Establishment Has Lost Control

Brexit Looms Perilously Close on the British.
Theresa May has been kicking the can down the road for months now. She will notice that she has run out of tarmac. Welcome to the new normal.


https://www.marxist.com/brexit-british-establishment-have-lost-control.htm

 

All those Muslims there are pretty much screwed.

Guess they went to the wrong white country.

 

I think this whole comedy show happening in the UK is just funny ... and I enjoy the spectacle quite relaxed.

Since 2 years on the British side unsuccessfully tried an outrageous cherry picking with which one failed kraxhend. Then a best possible exit treaty is negotiated, which then crashed in the British Parliament. The clear message from the EU is that there is no renegotiation ... but the info somehow does not reach the brain of the British parliamentarians or the brain is not able to process this clear message from the EU.
And what was the result after the last comedy show in Westminster again? Oh yes ... Theresa May should renegotiate with the EU. ROFL ...

The EU has made it clear on several occasions that it is possible to talk about the issue of the border of Northern Ireland with the Republic of Ireland and to find a solution ... and there are also a few possible solutions (keyword "Customs Union" has several variants!) ... but the problem is a completely different one!

The EU has been told a bunch of things from London that the British do not want.
Nice ... but then the question arises, what do the British really want and could the British please say that?
In addition, all British clowns in Westminster, led by both chief clowns May and Corbyn are not able to till today!

 

The leaders of the EU are complete idiots. If there is a hard Brexit, it's going to hurt the EU more than Britain, this is why May wants to renegotiate. Looks like the EU is doomed, so who will be next? Will it be Hungary, Italy, Poland?

Looks like Merkel made a real mess - oh that right:

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At this rate Britain will be holding EU elections this year... or not... there's not even consensus about this tiny piece of legislation. How are they going to overcome the bigger obstacles. More time... to do what...posture and look important

EU says Britain must hold European elections if no Brexit before July 2
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-commission-election/eu-says-britain-must-hold-european-elections-if-no-brexit-before-july-2-idUSKCN1PC1BF

 

Is the EU a free trade bloc or a protectionist bloc at this point?

The soft Brexit talk is all weasel words from the 3 quarters of MPs who disagreed with the referendum result. The only Brexit is hard Brexit.

And as Ive said from day 1, Brexit will never be allowed to happen.

You cannoy negotiate your way to liberty. It can only be secured with blood.

WWI and WWII were games of musical chairs and like it or not your freedom is going to stay where it is or decline from here on in. Thats the harsh reality.

 

The EU is a community of 27 countries (excluding the UK that I no longer count) that have created a free trade area. As a community, it has concluded pending agreements with many other countries that are not members ... in Europe especially Norway and Switzerland. But even outside the EU there are agreements, as of today the JEFTA agreement between the EU and Japan is in force and thus the largest free trade area on this planet has been created ... bigger and more economically powerful than NAFTA USA, Canada and Mexico !
Of course, this will be seen as protectionism for those who are not members or do not want to be, or are without agreements with the EU.
This is nonsense, but who cares about the opinion of such people? Me and most in the EU do not ...

You know ... soft Brexit, hard Brexit etc. I do not care anymore. Important is for me only that the eternal and for decades complaining UK finally goes as soon as possible, no matter how!
Since then, the British Brexit clowns have been negotiating with ludicrous and outrageous cherry picking demands ... such as that the free movement of UK citizens continues throughout the complete EU, but conversely, the British want to decide whom from the EU they give the same freedom of movement or not ... I'm done with the Brexit British!
You write clearly that there can only be the hard Brexit / may ... OK ... make it from me! But woe to you British, when your economy crashes and the number of unemployed is rising and you want to blame the EU for that! You Brexiteers are alone then to blame, nobody else!

 

Sure ... again evil Merkel is blamed ... as usual and slowly only a boring crappy behavior only!

Read facts and not BS propaganda Jeannette ... Who voted backed on lies only for the Brexit? Who came with Chery Picking demands into negotiations? Who lost realities by rejection the agreement, which was clealry and directly titled to be the only possible and best one with no re-negotiating possible? Hello ... did you get that?

And the EU clearly told too, that about the main dispute ithe border in Ireland it could be discussed to find a solution, but without questioning the agreement in itself.

And who will leave next? I hope it is Hungary with this hidden dictaor and bad ass Orban ... and maybe Poland if the population does not become using the brain again (note my wife is Polish Nationality and she says the same!). And if this neo fascists in Italy will leave, then go please too.

I want to kick out all these rubbish members who are not worth to be a member of the EU and then we can form a new and better one with the rest who is worth like BE-NEÖux, France and Germany, maybe others too!

 

If the UK wants free trade and the EU wants free trade then there should be free trade. If they want to lord protectionism over member states like a hammer waiting to hit a disobedient child then i dont see how you can claim them to be pro-free trade.

Looks more like they hold free trade hostage to force bureaucracy and unaccountable central government down the throats of member states.

The Germans are at it again. Someone sack Chamberlain.

 

It would be hilarious were it not so bloody ludicrous. The humiliation of it kind of exemplifies the loss of Empire - if exemplification were needed!

 

Well they're bureaucrats - it goes with the territory?

 

And that is the ... sorry ... total nonsense that the Brexit idiots have told you and you still believe!

Within the EU common market, there are rules common to all members, safety rules and standards etc.. These also apply to all others who want to export goods into the EU. Norway and Switzerland ... yes even now Japan have concluded agreements and contracts with the EU governing this.
Yes, some of these rules, etc. are weird and ridiculous ... but before you get excited about it, let's tell you, you're not better in the UK about.
After one of Brexit's comedy shows in Westminster, there was an hour-long debate by the MPs about the new / correct standard for the height of the slot in Royal Mail mailboxes! A really very important topic and there is nothing more important as that in moment I guess?

Also you and we want that there is a duty free trade between UK and EU in both directions. This requires an agreement called the Customs Union ... which means that as a member you are responsible for ensuring that nothing comes in and goes further into the EU, which is not in line with EU rules. The EU proposal here because of the border issue in Ireland to discuss details was done, because that can be discussed and set everything in detail and also only in parts too... but you do not want that to discuss until now!

No ... your rediculous attack on us Germans is just absurd, because from you in the UK is just comming only a long list what you do not want ... but no info, what you want!
First, you agree on your own what you want and tell us .... and you can forget about these bad German for evers, these times are over, where it still tightens us. The times when we pay only everything, but shut up, are over ... forever, whether that suits you on the island or not!

 

I am Australian, not British.

They use the threat of protectionism to enforce regulatory compliance.

The 2.6% tariff seems preferable to me.

 

It's all unravelling and May is finally using the leverage we have over the EU. The next 2 months will be superb for the British if we just stick to No Deal.

 

Dont believe May for a second. She is a snake who will connive to keep you in at all costs.

 

And if your economy breaks down and unemployement grows ... please don't blame the EU to be guilty for it! It is then your own fault and no one else!
I work in purchasing of a big international placed corporation. We have still faced out several of our UK suppliers last year with a spending of about 6-7 million EUR / year in sum and replaced them with others inside the EU and from Asia. Another brand inside the corporation is pure British since 100 years or more... but will move the rest of the Head Office and parts of the R&D to an EU country ... as they still have closed the production and moved to another EU country right after the Brexit voting.
And look ... as another example about the Barden Corporation...

But hey .. leave with deal or no deal, I give a crap about.

 

May isn't in charge anymore, she is at the will of parliament and the opposition were destroyed. I'm more hopeful now of a no deal as we are seeing the cracks within the EU.

We want a no deal, yes there will be a downturn for a short while but then we will be flying. The EU on the other hand will continue to destroy itself with it's idiotic single currency and protectionist ways. Can't wait to see Juncker's reaction when we don't pay you your £39b. Who's picking up that tab out of interest? Maybe ask the French, they love the EU at the moment. Hehe

 

Lol ... an Aussie?
OK, there's some weird Commonwealth Club on the paper, and more of the nostalgia of the old days from the British Empire, to which you used to belong, to do something meaningful or to have a legitimacy for something important ,
You are probably one of those who think that this nostalgic club where you are a member, then the EU replaces, etc.?

 

Boy, you have a real admiration/resentment against the British don't you? Is it because we achieved what Germany never will?

We will welcome the commonwealth, we are brothers and sisters and will stick together.

 

Oh is that sweet ... there comes someone with this idiotic false figures of Brexit idiots how much of the British pay to the EU and believe the nonsense? Really now?

Yes ... £ 39bn went to Brussels ... but thanks to your Margret Thatcher and her deal with Brussels in 1984, ever since then 66% have been going straight back to you on the island.

So just math ... 66% of 39bn GBP are good 25bn GBP which are paid back directly from Brussels to London.
So make an actual payment of just under £ 14bn in reality from UK to Brussels!

Facts ... Facts ... Facts ... instead of Brexit lies, eh?

 

Boy ... I have no resentment against the British in general ... 4 close friends of me are British and living here and all 4 say the same as I do!
But I have a great resentment against those idiots who live in a fairy tale world of the past and not in the current reality ... and particualry those who still can't accept that WW-2 and evil Nazi time is more than 70 years ago and can't accept that these times are for ever over and we have the same rights and sovereignity as you have!

And yes ... your Commonwealth will replace the EU ... sure ... and then we all sing together "Britannia rules the waves" and remember the good old times of the British Empire which many people like you obviously think is still existing, eh?

 

The Commonwealth is not really in competition with the EU because the EU is such a vastly different beast. The Commonwealth openly has no ambitions of consolidation, it is just an international organisation which facilitates good will among member states.

 

You won't mind when we come out no deal and we don't pay the settlement then.

Who is picking up the tab though? You don't have a lot of allies left. Even Sweden have said they aren't paying, the French hate Merkel and the EU and the rest pretty much take from the pot. I am happy to have a bit of turbulence in the UK to be rid of the EU. You guys need us long term and we do not need you. The countries are already lining up, knocking on Germany's door for more money to replace the loss of trade to the UK. Don't forget we are the largest consumers of EU products. Sellers are easy to find, buyers are what everyone needs.

 

Unlike the EU, The British want trade partners from the commonwealth. We won't try to govern them